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Mac Plumart

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Architectural Education Follow Up
« on: September 03, 2012, 11:47:18 AM »
I've posted a few threads over the years seeking advice on how someone should go about furthering their education concerning golf course education.  I've taken all the valid ideas and put them into practice. 

One of the most interesting ideas was to simply observe others playing golf.  I've done that.  I love to show up at a golf course as single, get paired up with three strangers, then become an interested observer.  Lots of key takeaways from these observations.

Observation #1---Most golfers do not think before they strike the golf ball.  They simply grab a club and swing without any (or much) analysis regarding which club to hit, what type of shot to hit, where they should hit the ball, and what shot they are trying to set up on their next shots.

Comments/thoughts?
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Mark Bourgeois

Re: Architectural Education Follow Up
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2012, 11:58:14 AM »
Mac, have you read the excellent book, "Smart Golf," specifically the section on how golfers of differing ability play a difficult hole at Cog Hill (Dubsdread)?

David Davis

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Re: Architectural Education Follow Up
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2012, 12:05:25 PM »
What do you think the average HCP is from these people? Maybe 25? Golf is a tough game IMO (I'm sure a few of you would agree :-). So for many people it's hard enough just to concentrate on making contact with the ball and hitting it straight. In fact, almost all consuming. When you are completely consumed then it's tough to think about course management. I know I struggle with it even on the best of days and make poor decisions. Although I try to think my way through the course every time I play and I play a lot compared to the average golfer I think.

On the other hand, grip it and rip it, find it and hack it out, or hit and hope are also strategies that just may have proven successful on one occasion or another.
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Mac Plumart

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Re: Architectural Education Follow Up
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2012, 03:50:27 PM »
Mark...

I have not read the book.  Sounds like I should.



David...

Of course, I don't have a statistical study of these people's handicaps but the vast majority are/were below 15 and were pretty competent at hitting shots.  In fact, I'd say many were single digits.


The ramifications of Observation #1 are immense, especially when combined with competent basic golfing skills.

Ramification #1---If players are competent at the basics of the game, specifically ball striking, and they don't think before they strike the ball...strategy is lost on them.  Center line bunkers become "unfair" as their well struck tee shot wasn't rewarded.  If greens are meant to be approached from specific angles and these players don't notice that, then greens can become "unfair" as their well struck shots were not rewarded.  And no, I didn't play with Luke Donald this week at TPC Boston.   :)

Ramification #2---Beauty trumps all.  No matter whether you are a scratch handicapper or a 30, you can appreciate beauty.  To be able to appreciate strategy, you have to be a good golfer AND a thinking golfer.  Mackenzie mentions something like this in "The Spirit of St. Andrews" when he talks about how revered Cypress Point was almost immediately, which he was not used to experiencing with his designs.


In fact, on point #1...Jeff Forston's post regarding NGLA and how it "changed" him is a truly wonderful example of someone "getting" the concept of thinking golf.  And he highlighted how the "usual" course doesn't embrace these nuances.  Here is a portion of that (those) post(s)...

Simply put, NGLA, more than any other course (with the exception of TOC and a couple others), inspires me to play great golf.  The reward for playing intelligent and well executed shots is unmatched on all levels in my experience.  A lot of the time when playing golf on most courses I find myself going to a rote, well rehearsed shot making process that can sometimes leave well executed shots feeling routine or unremarkable.  At NGLA I start each hole with a gameplan that seeks a result, but when the desired shot is not placed in the intended spot I'm filled with the excitement of what I will have in front of me even though I may have missed my mark.  But, even more impressive to me is that the process is so organic and free of mechanical urges.  I am forced to hit the shots that are FUN to hit and watch; shots of touch and feel.  It takes an artistic mind to truly enjoy the course IMO, because the canvas laid in front of you is so unique and special.  The shapes and trajectories of the shots you play there stick out in your mind more than the vast majority of golf courses you'll play in your life.  You'll remember which brush/club you used and distance is relative to the shot you feel inside your bones, not what your bushnell tells you.


This is precisely what I'm getting at.  And it is this type of thinking that a lot of us on this site a looking for and going nuts for when we find it.  HOWEVER, I really wonder if these vast majority of today's golfers will ever "get" this.  And, therefore, I wonder if this is why some of the "great" newer courses aren't financial successes.  And furthermore I wonder if embracing the desires of the masses is one of the only ways to make golf a successful business enterprise, regardless if the "educated elite" pan these types of courses.  In fact, I wonder if a few successful architects know this and simply try to built pleasing but superficial golf courses because they know that sells.

Thoughts/comments?
« Last Edit: September 03, 2012, 03:53:43 PM by Mac Plumart »
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David Davis

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Re: Architectural Education Follow Up
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2012, 04:19:55 PM »
Mac, I'm impressed that you show up and play at courses and run into all these single hcp'ers. That's not been my experience in any country unless you specifically ask to be set up with someone good and even then.

While I've not played NGLA and actually not read that thread either due to the title and fact it couldn't of changed me YET. It sounds very much like he's talking about links golf to me. On the course I play regularly I honestly doubt if a non-thinking 15 hcp could ever break 100. Normally there are little to no routine shots were you aren't trying to calculate wind, your uneven stance, ball flight, elevation, type of shot etc. It's the kind of place where you don't get any breaks and there are no holes were you just can relax and regroup. I still don't think my course management skills are especially good, it's one of the biggest areas I'm trying to improve on. Seems to work on other courses well, just not yet at my club.

I'm guessing the average guys may not get it and probably don't care, don't have the time and are happy just to be out with their friends. Which is perfectly ok, ignorance is bliss. There are plenty of wide open public courses (and perhaps even private) where they can go out and swing away without thinking all day long.

For the thinkers and feelers among us there is a whole world out there to experience with a small number of new gems added for us to appreciate every now and then.

I tend to believe beauty should trump all. There is nothing in golf more emotional/spiritual than standing on the tee of 17 at Cypress with waves crashing all around and taking in what you are experiencing. Add that to the strategy and thinking required on the course and that seems to satisfy the best of both worlds in your discussion piece. At least for me it does.
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Mark Bourgeois

Re: Architectural Education Follow Up
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2012, 04:24:42 PM »
Mac, of course. Great chefs cannot exist without a population of gourmands.

"Smart golf" is an entry in the highly selective "NOLAgolfSleeper Series." If you can't find it I'm happy to lend it. You could pick it up at the Richmond branch.

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