What Is The Toughest Walk Designed By...

[Mike Hendren]

Donald J. Ross
Albert W. Tillinghast
William Flynn
Seth Raynor
Harry Colt
Perry Maxwell
Stanley Thompson
William Langford
Other Old Dead Guy of Your Choice

Just to name a few.

Mike

[JNC Lyon]

Seth Raynor? Yale.

[Mike Hendren]

I'll open with Langford's Gatlinburg Country Club (now Municipal) and Ross' Grove Park Inn.

[Tom_Doak]

Michael:

A great question.  I will have to go back to the books to think about this a little bit.

Off the top of my head, MacKenzie's would be either Pasatiempo or Augusta National, although a couple of his early courses around Leeds would also contend -- Halifax and Reddish Vale.

For Stanley Thompson, Capilano is a pretty neat walking solution to a very steep site, although it's not an easy walk, and Cape Breton Highlands is in a category of its own.

[Matthew Petersen]

Have not played there, but I wouldn't think Banff Springs (Thompson) would be an especially easy walk.

[JMEvensky]

Perry Maxwell--Southern Hills (in August).

[John Kavanaugh]

Didn't we walk Lookout Mountain together? Not going to walk French Lick.

[Joey Chase]

For Tilly, Bethpage Black?

[Matthew Petersen]

Also, not a very tough walk, but Ross's Broadmoor may be among the toughest walks of any course he designed.

[Scott Szabo]

I would have said Augusta National for MacKenzie as well.

[David Stewart]

Also, not a very tough walk, but Ross's Broadmoor may be among the toughest walks of any course he designed.

Are we talking about the Colorado Spring Broadmoor or the Indianapolis Broadmoor? I haven't played the Broadmoor in Colorado Springs, but the one in Indianapolis is a very easy walk.

[Mark McKeever]

Donald Ross: Charles River CC and George Wright GC

***DISCLAIMER***
Note that both of these courses are routed beautifully on wild terrain.  It just beats you up to walk them!


Mark

[Mark Pearce]

Donald Ross: Charles River CC and George Wright GC

***DISCLAIMER***
Note that both of these courses are routed beautifully on wild terrain.  It just beats you up to walk them!


Mark

Wow.  Those are the two Ross courses I have played and neither struck me as a tough walk.  Both seemed like great use of terrain but I really didn't note anything about the walk.  Maybe I was just enjoying two great courses too much?

[Chris Clouser]

JM,

If you want to include the heat, I can think of several Maxwell courses that would be rough to walk in Oklahoma and Texas.  But if you take the heat out of the consideration I would be hard pressed to think of any of his layouts that were hard to walk. 

[Doug Wright]

Also, not a very tough walk, but Ross's Broadmoor may be among the toughest walks of any course he designed.

Are we talking about the Colorado Spring Broadmoor or the Indianapolis Broadmoor? I haven't played the Broadmoor in Colorado Springs, but the one in Indianapolis is a very easy walk.

Colorado Springs. However, the Ross part of what are now 9 holes each of the East and West courses is not that tough of a walk. When you cross the road to the RTJ part of those courses the terrain is much more severe. 

[JMEvensky]

JM,

If you want to include the heat, I can think of several Maxwell courses that would be rough to walk in Oklahoma and Texas.  But if you take the heat out of the consideration I would be hard pressed to think of any of his layouts that were hard to walk. 

I agree--my answer was more about the heat in Tulsa the day I played than about PM's design. I just remember walking off the first tee at SH and realizing that,at some point,there was going to be a walk up a hill just as steep--and the temperature was going to be higher.

[Tim Martin]

CC of Troy has to be up there for Travis.

[Pete_Pittock]

Have not played there, but I wouldn't think Banff Springs (Thompson) would be an especially easy walk.

Very easy walk. Only one uphill after the Devil's Cauldron

[Dan Moore]

Langford-Wakonda CC

I haven't played Gatlinburg, Michael have you played Wakonda? 

[Mike Benham]

Ross = Peninsula G&CC

[JLahrman]

Seth Raynor? Yale.

How hard is it compared to Camargo? Greens and tees are in close proximity at Camargo, but there are quite a few hills to hoof (#2, #3, #6, #9, #12, #14, #18)

[Tim Bert]

Have not played there, but I wouldn't think Banff Springs (Thompson) would be an especially easy walk.

It is not nearly as difficult as you'd expect given the setting.  It doesn't feel like a mountain course when you are walking. More like a course surrounded by mountains. The only issue, which is a pretty big one, is the walk from 14 green to 15 tee but that isn't based on being in the mountains. I believe the course used to be routed from the current 15th to the current 14th so that walk between holes wouldn't have presented the same mid-round issue.

[J_ Crisham]

Donald Ross: Charles River CC and George Wright GC

***DISCLAIMER***
Note that both of these courses are routed beautifully on wild terrain.  It just beats you up to walk them!


Mark

Charles River?  I thought the walk was pleasant- I carried my bag and didn't think it a challenge. White Bear Yacht was a stern walk with the hilliness but very doable.

[Carl Rogers]

The Asheville, North Carolina Muni (a modest Ross) back nine is a mountain goat hike.

[Mark Saltzman]

Highlands links is supposed to be a tough walk. Never been though.