[PThomas]

Alas, tis still at least 10 years away, but when I see pictures like the one of Trevose in my earlier thread, and read about and see the pictures of so many great courses in Scotland/Ireland/England that aren't the "big names", like St. Andrews, etc., I really start to wonder if I should consider retiring over there, so great is my love of the game of golf (I didn't think it was possible that I could love it any more than I did, but I found out I could this year, playing rounds by myself during the mild winter and spring, enjoying myself even more than I have before)..

What are your retirement plans and/or dreams?

(And no, I haven't talked to my wife about this...but she does still have relatives in Ireland....)

[David_Tepper]

Paul T. -

I have meet several people who have retired to the Dornoch area from other parts of Britain. They say the winters there are no worse than where they were living in Britain before. However, you should be aware that even southern England is much further north than the 48 states of the U.S. and the hours of daylight in the winter months are likely to be much shorter than what you are used to in the U.S. On the other hand, you can play golf till 10:00pm or later in the summer!

You can spend up to 180 days a year in the UK without a visa, but I do not know how complicated things get beyond that.

DT    

[cary lichtenstein]

Don't wait for retirement, arthritics has wrecked havoc with my body, latest is a wrist replacement.

[Mac Plumart]

What are your retirement plans and/or dreams?

Hang out in Ohio with a few trips to Mullen during the bulk of the year.

With a winter hang out spot as well...I havent' figured out that part yet.


Paul...would you do GB&I year round?

[Joe_Tucholski]

Shy of 30 we just bought a retirement home in Pinehurst.  We've also talked about purchasing a place if/when we head back to CO.  We've also agreed it would be great to spend 1-3 months a year in the UK or Australia but would likely rent a place on those trips (figure I'll look into international memberships and the rules associated w/ them).

All that being said I'm sure life can/will change a lot of the "plans."

[Rich Goodale]

Britain is hard to beat for retirement in that:

1.  You can play quality golf all year round
2.  The golf is cheap and cheerful (relative, at least to the USA)
3.  Most of the people in Britain speak some sort of dialect of American
4.  The food whilst largely semi-edible is improving
5.  Lack of sunshine significantly limits possibility of skin cancer
6.  You get 24/7 coverage of the British Open without commericals

While you can do the 180 day/year "tourist visa" thing for a while be forewarned that if you do this with any kind of regularity you are in danger of being classified as "ordinarily resident" in Britain, which means you get taxed over here.  If you really want to retire over here legally, you can apply for an indefinite stay and/or full citizenship.  In both cases you will need to show commitment to residency and will have to pay UK taxes (effectively equalised with US obligations through tax treaties).  One very positive aspect of this status is that in exchange for your taxes you are entitled to "free" health care in the UK, and it is very good, despite what some of your doctor friends might say.

There are lots of alternatives, but I think that the best one (all other things being equal) would be the south coast of England.  Great golf, best weather and easy transport to the US (Gatwick and/or Heathrow) and Europe (Eurostar and/or Ferries).

Best thing to do is come over for an extended break and see how you like it (or not).

Rich

[Tim Martin]

Britain sounds awesome although the low marks for the food is a problem.

[RJ_Daley]

While physical fitness, doing proper strengthening exercises are very important during years leading into retirement, I am hoping some brilliant Orthopedic or Spinal Neurologist can invent something to allow the aging golfer to avoid the ravages of the golf swing.  Then, retirement would really be cool!  I have empathy for Cary, who loves golf and the darn arthritis and spinal issues takes the fun right out of it.  I also have to pay a price to golf, and wonder how much longer I can do it without determining the pain isn't worth the game.  But, not yet! 

My friend retired in Sun City west side of Las Vegas.  I thought he wouldn't like it, but 'loves it'!  They play 3-4X a week, at their home course, and one day a week at the muni for practically nothing.  They say there are always golf deals around for discount prices at various regional courses.  Now they come back to WI 6 weeks mid summer heat instead of going for winter somewhere.

It seems to me there are many places that one could live in retirement, even in more winter weather areas, and still be close enough to moderate regions for long weekend get-aways to satisfy the golf jones until your own climate moderates enough to play...

[Mark Chaplin]

Tim - the low marks for food tend to come from Americans and lets face it unless you want fries or blue cheese sauce with everything the USA is no gastronation.

[Cory Lewis]

Retirement is a ways off for us, but our goal is to spend winters in Scottsdale, AZ and summers in Bend, Oregon with yearly trips to Bandon and Vegas.

[Bill_McBride]

Britain sounds awesome although the low marks for the food is a problem.

Not a problem if you fancy curry.

[David_Tepper]

I am afraid for some 70 may become the new 65.

"8 Retirement Realities In A Stumbling Economy"

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/8-retirement-realities-stumbling-economy-151721209.html

[Jon Wiggett]

Britain sounds awesome although the low marks for the food is a problem.

Tim,

I have had more culinary horrors in the USA than in the UK despite having only spent a fraction of the time in the USA than in the UK.

Rich,

there is no coverage of the 'British' Open in the UK indeed I am unaware of such a tournament. That you should make such a mistake, have you learned nothing since coming here, tut, tut 

Jon

[Tim Martin]

Tim - the low marks for food tend to come from Americans and lets face it unless you want fries or blue cheese sauce with everything the USA is no gastronation.

Mark-The food and array of options on the east coast between DC and Boston is 5 star.

[Jon Wiggett]

Tim - the low marks for food tend to come from Americans and lets face it unless you want fries or blue cheese sauce with everything the USA is no gastronation.

Mark-The food and array of options on the east coast between DC and Boston is 5 star.

Tim,

are you claiming that there are no bad food experiences then? I would suggest that as in the UK in the USA you can eat good and also bad depending on the restaurant. If you are saying that poor food is a negative for the UK then it is atleast the same for the USA.

Jon

[Tim Martin]

Tim - the low marks for food tend to come from Americans and lets face it unless you want fries or blue cheese sauce with everything the USA is no gastronation.

Mark-The food and array of options on the east coast between DC and Boston is 5 star.

Tim,

are you claiming that there are no bad food experiences then? I would suggest that as in the UK in the USA you can eat good and also bad depending on the restaurant. If you are saying that poor food is a negative for the UK then it is atleast the same for the USA.

Jon

Jon-All I was doing was reacting to Rich Goodale`s comment. No worries.

[Willie_Dow]

David -

I might have put a bid on the next door Dornoch had it not been occupied by the sea gulls.

Thanks for your input at the seventy mark.  At 83 I'd like a new venture.

Willie

[Tom Fagerli]

Due to the ravages of age I suggest (being a senior golfer myself) that you be retired a little while everyday.

[Sean_A]

The major drawback about retirement in the UK is cost of living.  But if you have plenty of dosh, a nice spot in England is a great place to spend May through September, plus its easy to get anywhere in Europe if the weather is getting you down as it is me this year.  In terms of weather (I have cancelled more golf this year than the last 5 years combined), this is the worst summer I have experienced since living in Bavaria back in '87-'88 - I was snowed on!  At least I don't have to eat that bloody awful purple cabbage!   

Ciao

[Mark Chaplin]

Sean - its an advantage in living in one of the driest parts of the country. Last week when people were getting flooded all over the UK my sister in law camped two miles from Deal for a week, apart from a couple of overnight showers it was dry all week long, quite strange really.

The pain at the club is overnight rain and warm days means penal rough, unlike last summer's dried out straw for the Open at Sandwich.

[Rich Goodale]

Britain sounds awesome although the low marks for the food is a problem.

Tim,

I have had more culinary horrors in the USA than in the UK despite having only spent a fraction of the time in the USA than in the UK.

Rich,

there is no coverage of the 'British' Open in the UK indeed I am unaware of such a tournament. That you should make such a mistake, have you learned nothing since coming here, tut, tut 

Jon

Hi Jon

Discounting the Portrush blip in 1951 "The Open" has only been held in Britain over its glorious (if parochial)  history (and there is a case to be made that the R&A just made the common mistake in 1951 of assuming that Portrush was a part of Britain.....).  When they take it to Australia, Canada, South Africa, China and Foulepointe I'll think of calling it "The" Open.

Cheers

Rich

[Rich Goodale]

I am afraid for some 70 may become the new 65.

"8 Retirement Realities In A Stumbling Economy"

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/8-retirement-realities-stumbling-economy-151721209.html

F**k!  Does that mean I have to start working again and give back all my Social Security checks?

[Jon Wiggett]

Britain sounds awesome although the low marks for the food is a problem.

Tim,

I have had more culinary horrors in the USA than in the UK despite having only spent a fraction of the time in the USA than in the UK.

Rich,

there is no coverage of the 'British' Open in the UK indeed I am unaware of such a tournament. That you should make such a mistake, have you learned nothing since coming here, tut, tut  

Jon

Hi Jon

Discounting the Portrush blip in 1951 "The Open" has only been held in Britain over its glorious (if parochial)  history (and there is a case to be made that the R&A just made the common mistake in 1951 of assuming that Portrush was a part of Britain.....).  When they take it to Australia, Canada, South Africa, China and Foulepointe I'll think of calling it "The" Open.

Cheers

Rich

So Rich,

what do you call baseball's 'World Series'  

They didn't call it 'THE OPEN' because of where it is but rather because of what it is!!!

Jon

[Steve Strasheim]

Due to the ravages of age I suggest (being a senior golfer myself) that you be retired a little while everyday.

I really like the wisdom of this statement.

[Marty Bonnar]

50% of this household has successfully managed to extract themselves early from the working population pool. I believe they fill their day with golf, shopping and general socialising.
Jealous, moi? Non!
Not much that is.
Roll on, 2026.
Feck, i might be deid by then...
F.

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