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Bruce Wellmon

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Quail Hollow "facelift"
« on: June 27, 2012, 12:38:38 PM »
From Ron Green, Jr and The Charlotte Observer.

Quail Hollow course gets another facelift

By Ron Green Jr.
rgreenjr@charlotteobserver.com
By Ron Green Jr. The Charlotte Observer
Posted: Wednesday, Jun. 27, 2012
Modified: Wednesday, Jun. 27, 2012

Quail Hollow Club is in the midst of another facelift.
Several significant changes are underway that will alter the way the course plays next May when the Wells Fargo Championship returns. More changes are likely in the coming years in advance of the 2017 PGA Championship.
Two holes -- Nos. 4 and 8 -- are undergoing major changes while the 11th, 12th and 13th holes are being tweaked.
To accommodate a new short game practice area, the tee on the par-4 fourth hole is being shifted approximately 50 yards to the left and the hole will be lengthened to 508 yards from the championship tee. From the new tees, the hole will play straightaway, eliminating the gentle right to left movement of its former design.
The move allows the club to expand its practice tees and create a new short-game area with three greens. The existing short-game area, located to the right of the practice range, will be converted into a tournament parking area.
Among the features of the new short game area will be a sod-faced bunker, reminiscent of those on the famous links courses in Scotland and Ireland.
The short par-4 eighth hole is also being revamped with a new green being built to the left of the existing green, which was among the most controversial on the course. The tees will be shifted slightly and the hole will play between 325 and 340 yards with an opening at the front of the green to allow long hitters to attempt to fit their tee shots between two bunkers.
Bushes behind the 10th green and adjacent to the 13th tee have been removed and the tee on the 13th hole will be lowered and shifted to the right, changing the angle of approach to the heavily contoured green. Also, the back tee at the par-4 11th hole will be moved back in order to bring a fairway bunker back into play.
The 12th green, which has been openly criticized by Phil Mickelson among others, is also being rebuilt to soften the severe contour.
In addition, several cart paths behind the clubhouse and around the putting green are being removed. They will be replaced by a single path that will allow for better spectator movement.
The project is expected to be completed by Aug. 15.
Quail Hollow will convert to bermuda greens in advance of the 2017 PGA Championship and club president Johnny Harris said it's possible the transition could be made as early as next summer. The club is interviewing candidates for the superintendent position formerly held by Jeff Haley.
"We knew we had to do some things," Harris said. "The changes will make it harder for the tournament players but not for our members. We don't have an Alister Mackenzie or Donald Ross heritage to worry about as far as making changes. If the board thinks it's the right thing to do, we're going to do it."

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/06/27/3345886/quail-hollow-course-gets-another.html#storylink=cpy

Niall Hay

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Re: Quail Hollow "facelift"
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2012, 01:18:12 PM »
"The changes will make it harder for the tournament players but not for our members. We don't have an Alister Mackenzie or Donald Ross heritage to worry about as far as making changes. If the board thinks it's the right thing to do, we're going to do it."  - interesting line.


Steve Burrows

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Re: Quail Hollow "facelift"
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2012, 01:22:50 PM »
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Among the features of the new short game area will be a sod-faced bunker, reminiscent of those on the famous links courses in Scotland and Ireland.
This is certainly a curious decision -- to install a sod-faced bunker in North Carolina on a site that, to my recollection, has no other physical features that so explicitly allude to the Scottish origins of the game.


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"The changes will make it harder for the tournament players but not for our members. We don't have an Alister Mackenzie or Donald Ross heritage to worry about as far as making changes. If the board thinks it's the right thing to do, we're going to do it."
Niall,

I also found that quote interesting, if not oddly refreshing.  Quail Hollow very much understands that their financial success and marketability (which has always been their goal) depends on a liberal amount of malleabillity in the architecture.  But, ironically, though they claim not to have a real heritage, they are creating one for themselves every day, in the same vein as how Eric Hobsbawn and Terence Ranger discuss notions of heritage in their book, The Invention of Tradition.  Similarly, many of the courses that are now considered great, and thus, sacred, went through this same process of molting, even if we now we choose to believe that their greatness rests at a frozen moment in time.
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Mark Pritchett

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Re: Quail Hollow "facelift"
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2012, 01:49:40 PM »
 Similarly, many of the courses that are now considered great, and thus, sacred, went through this same process of molting, even if we now we choose to believe that their greatness rests at a frozen moment in time.

Well said. 

Matthew Rose

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Re: Quail Hollow "facelift"
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2012, 03:47:48 PM »
I hope they don't change #8 too much.... that approach is one I enjoy watching more than any others during that particular event.
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Carl Johnson

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Re: Quail Hollow "facelift" New
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2012, 05:51:26 PM »
Note that the sod-faced bunker is in the practice area.  This may be so that members can practice their recoveries from such bunkers before heading overseas.  I wonder if they'll be importing sand from Scotland -- much different in texture and depth from that normally found on courses in North Carolina.
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