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Brett_Morrissy

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« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2012, 11:01:48 AM »
Welcome Brian!
As a highly skilled player what are the two things you find the most interesting about Pine Valley?
...and what are the two things you find most interesting about your number 4, Old MAC?

Cheers
Brett
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John Shimony

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« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2012, 03:40:24 PM »
Brian, you can ignore my inquistive IM as I now see that you are the Colbert of the news reports.  Congratulations and welcome aboard.  We may need to institute a Villanova quota.  I would start a Temple grad recruitment drive to even out our numbers but I would have to scour all the Philly dive bars and strip joints and who has the time. 
John Shimony
Philadelphia, PA

Brian Colbert

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« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2012, 04:09:56 PM »
Many questions so I'll try and tackle them all:

Tom: I'll let you know as soon as I've played in the Masters 3 times

John: I'm going to move back toward the end of August, at which time I'll probably be looking for places in Lincoln Park. Unfortunately I'm working in Oak Brook so that will be a brutal commute but I am pretty set on living downtown.

RJ: I already can think of a few courses I've been to/played that I would never tire of. For one, I think I could play my current club, White Manor every day without getting bored. Amongst others: Sea Island Seaside, Baltusrol Upper/Lower, Victoria, Beverly CC, Lancaster, and even Philadelphia Cricket Wissahickon/Militia Hill. If I could pick one course from Chicago to be a member at and play every day, I would choose Beverly. But I have yet to play a few of the greats including Medinah #3, Shoreacres, Conway Farms, and Butler National. I can tell you one thing for sure though, whatever course I play for the rest of my life will definitely not be designed by Arthur Hills.

Brett: There are a few things I thought were fantastic about Pine Valley. For one, I thought that the course was one of the most fair courses I have ever seen for its difficulty level. The fairways are wide and there are opportunities to score, but you must keep your ball in play. Some of the new tee boxes, however, I believe border on the unfair side. The holes that come to mind are 4 and 18. I played with two of my teammates at VU and one of them struggled to reach the fairway with a decent drive on number 4. I was also thoroughly impressed with how well Crump was able to fit the severity of each green to the difficulty of the hole. The more difficult holes on the course tee to green-4, 5, 13, 16, and 18- all have more gradual, run-up greens. In the converse, the shorter and "easier" tee to green holes, ie 2, 8, 10, 11, 17, I noticed to have small, severely sloped greens. I also found the number of playing angles and the continued incentive to hit on the more aggressive line to be fascinating and enjoyable.

As far as Old Mac is concerned, there are a couple things I'd like to point out before I go into any analysis. For one, I played the course in competition, meaning I didn't have as much time to really sit back and notice anything. The other, perhaps even more crippling, part of my analysis is that I played all of the resort courses with the wind from the south, which as those who have been to the resort are aware, the courses are designed to be played with a wind from the north. What made Old Mac so great in my opinion was its use of old school principles with a new school feel. Each of the four par threes are classic holes- redan, eden, short, and biarritz. The road hole was well done, and the original holes were incredible too. I think number 3 is one of the best par 4s I have ever played. I think it is the best true links course I have ever played, although I have a pretty small sample size. The green complexes are incredibly large but effectively the tears make them sometimes four or more separate smaller greens. It was amazing to me the way they could change a pin location on a hole and make it pretty much a full shot harder. For example, they had the pin on #1 on top of the tier to the left; that made the hole substantially more difficult than had they left it on the bottom. It was a great golf course and the experience of being at that resort is one every golfer deserves to have some day.

Mark McKeever

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« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2012, 04:16:51 PM »
Brian, you can ignore my inquistive IM as I now see that you are the Colbert of the news reports.  Congratulations and welcome aboard.  We may need to institute a Villanova quota.  I would start a Temple grad recruitment drive to even out our numbers but I would have to scour all the Philly dive bars and strip joints and who has the time. 

Shi$,

I will keep my eyes out for any other Temple grads that are interested.  Don't worry. 

Mark

PS, I like the avatar.
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Melvyn Morrow

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« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2012, 05:37:11 PM »
Hi Brian and welcome. The waters warm (at the moment) so glad to see you have taken the plunge.

Have you played at Kettering/Northampton?

Enjoy but be true to yourself.

Melvyn


Wayne Wiggins, Jr.

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« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2012, 05:57:20 PM »
Hello Golf Club Atlas!

I had the pleasure of hosting Mark McKeever at White Manor Country Club on Sunday and he suggested I join the message board here. I have long been reading the website for its course features and occasionally the interviews, but never made my way onto the message board.

A little about me: I am a 22 year-old recent graduate of Villanova University outside Philadelphia. In September, I'll be moving to Chicago (which is where I went to high school) to begin a job with an accounting firm. I played four years of varsity golf at Villanova, once being named to the All-Big East team and twice making the Ping All-Northeast Region Team. I have played in three USGA Championships (2010 US Amateur, 2010&2011 US Publinks) and last week was crowned the 2012 Golf Association of Philadelphia Amateur Champion. Admittedly that may have been one too many sentences about my golfing ability.

I love golf architecture and that is why I have enjoyed my time as a member at White Manor Country Club. It is a course that, when presented firm and fast, gives the player many options around the greens. I first started to take an interest in architecture around age 16, and I figured out that when I applied what I knew when I was on the course it could actually help me save a couple strokes out there. While on the golf team at Villanova, I also had the opportunity to play Aronimink about 100 times and Overbrook about 300 times.

Anyway, a couple lists:

Top 15 courses I've played (IMO):

1. Pine Valley
2. Merion
3. Oakmont
4. Old Macdonald
5. Bandon Trails
6. Victoria National
7. Pacific Dunes
8. Garden City Golf Club
9. Bethpage Black
10. TPC Sawgrass
11. Olympia Fields North
12. Chambers Bay
13. Beverly
14. Lancaster
15. Aronimink

Honorable Mentions:
Sea Island Seaside
Adios
Old Memorial
Hideout
Huntingdon Valley

Favorite Architect: Ross
10 Courses I'd most like to play in the future:

1. Augusta
2. St Andrews Old
3. Ballybunion
4. Cypress Point
5. NGLA
6. Fishers Island
7. Sand Hills
8. Chicago Golf
9. Butler National
10. Riviera

Anyway I can't wait to get to know some of you through this message board and I hope I can learn from you all as well!

Thanks,

Brian Colbert

Brian -

Welcome aboard from another Villanova alum!  congrats on your GAP win... good stuff.  Can't believe you have Aronimink as #15... we're giong to have to work on that  ;).

WW

Howard Riefs

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Re: Please allow myself to introduce... myself
« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2012, 06:58:35 PM »
...I can tell you one thing for sure though, whatever course I play for the rest of my life will definitely not be designed by Arthur Hills.

Winner!

Welcome aboard, Brian, and congrats on winning the Philly Amateur.

Where in the Chicago area did you go to high school?  Look forward to welcoming you back.
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