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Matthew Petersen

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Re: Dove Mountain
« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2012, 06:02:45 PM »
Not sure why the lack of love for Dove Mt. I am very biased as I love the desert and the architecture here is very good. I thought the greens we're tough but not over the top (played last year after the re-do).

Given the wide open nature of the site, any wind will increase the difficulty significantly which is a good thing, right?

True, but I doubt much consideration was given to wind during the design. The area just doesn't get much. As with anywhere it can kick up, but just because someone has the bad fortune to play a golf course in Arizona on the 1 day per year when the wind really blows doesn't mean the course is bad.

Morgan Clawson

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Re: Dove Mountain
« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2012, 09:43:41 PM »
I went to the tournament on Friday for the Sweet 16 round.  A few observations:

The greens that I saw had a lot of great internal contours and different sections. But I certainly wouldn't call them crazy or over the top.

The course seemed to have more width than other desert courses I have seen.  There was a fair amount of rough, but it wasn't particularly long or thick.

This would be a thought provoking course for midcappers - can I carry the desert transition or cross bunkers?, which side of the fairway should I place my next shot?

With the tents and towers gone, it would be an exceptionally beautiful course that feels very isolated.

I spent the most time by the 11th green. This was a 600ish yard par 5.  Accordingly, most players were close to the green with their 2nd shot. So, I got to watch a lot of different short approach shots into the green - sand, flop, 2 bounce and a check, even a back-up. It was fascinating stuff and the most fun I've had at a tournament other than The Masters. It helped that I was able to move around a lot so that I could easlity see each shot and putt. There was hardly anybody by that green.

Most of the players were extremely fit.

Rick Shefchik

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Re: Dove Mountain
« Reply #27 on: February 29, 2012, 11:27:14 AM »
I went to the tournament on Friday for the Sweet 16 round.  A few observations:

The greens that I saw had a lot of great internal contours and different sections. But I certainly wouldn't call them crazy or over the top.

The course seemed to have more width than other desert courses I have seen.  There was a fair amount of rough, but it wasn't particularly long or thick.

This would be a thought provoking course for midcappers - can I carry the desert transition or cross bunkers?, which side of the fairway should I place my next shot?

With the tents and towers gone, it would be an exceptionally beautiful course that feels very isolated.


Nice report, Morgan. That very much describes my experience playing there last year.
"Golf is 20 percent mechanics and technique. The other 80 percent is philosophy, humor, tragedy, romance, melodrama, companionship, camaraderie, cussedness and conversation." - Grantland Rice

Matt_Cohn

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Re: Dove Mountain New
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2012, 02:14:49 PM »
Just got back yesterday. We played the front nine from the WGC event (Saguaro) but unfortunately the third nine (Wild Burro) as our second nine, because the WGC back nine (Tortolita) was closed for  turf maintenance. I wasn't too happy about that switch, needless to say, after traveling 750 miles, although it's not something I thought about much once the tournament started.

I thought the greens were fantastic. The only thing I can assume is that they are simply kept too fast for the WGC event. We played them at somewhere in the 9's, I think, and they worked pretty well. They were slightly tame and could probably work up to about 10 give or take. Beyond that, it would get a bit ridiculous. I'm sure they're 11 or so for the WGC and that just seems like too much. But at 9-something, they just really made you think, plan, create, and stay on your toes. Happy to answer questions, but here are a bunch of pictures.

Saguaro 9 (WGC front nine): 1 tee


1 approach


2 tee


2 green


3 (par 3)


4 tee


4 approach (shorter par 4)


5 approach (long par 4 for WGC)


6 tee (par 3)


6 green


7 tee - long par 4


7 green - tough approach


8 tee (par 5)


8 long approach


8 green


9 tee - center bunker is toast


9 approach


9 green


Wild Burro 9 (not used for WGC): 2 (par 5)


3 approach (par 4)


4 (par 3)


5 (par 4 with Ritz in the background)


6 green (par 5)


7 tee (dogleg right par 4)


7 approach


8 tee (par 3)


9 (par 4)


We drove out to #6 on the Tortolita nine so we could at least play the drivable par 4 you see on TV. It's way narrower than it looks on television.


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