[Mike Hendren]

invest some of that $250,000,000  in a documentary produced by Ken Burns on the history of golf in America?

The role of Shelby Foote could be reprised by Tom Paul.

Mike

[Will Lozier]

invest some of that $250,000,000  in a documentary produced by Ken Burns on the history of golf in America?

The role of Shelby Foote could be reprised by Tom Paul.

Mike

GREAT IDEA!

[TEPaul]

Shelby Foote was a tad too pedantic for me. Personally I would rather reprise and do another role-----MARY CHESNUT!

Whatta Gal !!!  Whatta World!!!

Margaret M, is it really gone with the wind? Please say it tain't so.

[JC Jones]

I don't think I want my history of golf documentary to be the place where Tom Paul exhibits his cross-dressing side.

[Peter Pallotta]

Mike - I've enjoyed everything that Ken Burns has done, but his series on a subject I know pretty well (jazz) suggests to me that, for the sake of a flowing narrative arc and moments of poignancy and poetry, he is more than willing (a tad too willing for my tastes) to take 2nd and 3rd generation anecdotes and bits of apocraphal legends and treat them as facts/truths in the (authoritative-sounding) voice--over narration.  It makes me a little suspicious of the many (touching and beatiful) "truths" he voiced in his other works, and of the many liberties he may have taken in order to tell an engaging story.  (It is no co-incidence that he describes himself not as a historian or a documentarian, but as a 'story-teller'). A pet peeve of mine, obviously, so feel free to ignore.

Peter

[Mark Bourgeois]

Shelby Foote was a tad too pedantic for me. Personally I would rather reprise and do another role-----MARY CHESNUT!

Great book. Instead of eating pages out of cookbooks we could have you eating The Confidential Guide at a time when you felt great design was under siege.

[Dan King]

The history of golf can at times be tedious and boring. What is needs is some jazzing up. Mark Frost is just the man to do it. He took a boring event such as the U.S. Open of 1913, added a dozen or so of his own 'facts' and then, viola,  excitement. Combine Mark Frost and Ken Burns and think how exciting they could make the whole ball kerfuffle of the 1850s between Allan Robertson and Old Tom.

Cheers,
Dan King

So it is with history - all the names, dates and places are there, but it is not until they are seen from the right perspective that lessons become clear. history is boring, until it comes into focus.
 --William J Federer

[Peter Pallotta]

They eyed eachother warily across the old wooden table they'd once played under together as children. Old Tom held a cleek in his gnarled hands - 'like a crucifix' one observer remembered - while Robertson struggled to supress a stubborn cough, the first signs of the tuberculosis that would eventually take his life.

Both men had tears in their eyes; "it was as if", an American visitor remarked, "the faces on Mount Rushmore had suddenly come to life". This was not about a new kind of golf ball; this was about a new kind of GAME - a new kind of GOLF.  It was not the sacred game Old Tom knew and loved so well, and, like a crusader amongst the infidels, he was determined to fight for his faith, whatever the cost!

[Mike Hendren]

 P2, after slogging through all 3400 pages of Foote's Civil War Trilogy and finishing Saturday evening, I could use a little of Burns' liberties!  Pedantic is an understatement, Tom.

[Dan King]

Pete, you have a future in the novelist/screen writing realm. You outshone Mr. Frost.

The only minor nit would be it is hard to imagine Tom Morris' hand being gnarled at 30 years old, but just like Mr. Frost you didn't let minor facts get in the way of a good story.

Need a writing partner?

Cheers,
Dan King

All good writing is swimming under water and holding your breath.
 — F. Scott Fitzgerald

[Peter Pallotta]

Thanks, Dan -- I'm honoured that you noted how well I've learned from Mr. Frost! (I have no idea, for example, whether or not Robertson in fact ever had tuberculosis, but ala-Frost I figured that, since he would've eventually died of something, why not just make up something cool, and something that would cause him to supress a cough at just the right moment -- sort of like Kirk Douglas as Doc Holiday in "The Gunfight at OK Corral"). But I think the only way we could work together, and actually write a screenplay about golf, is if we agreed that everyday our only goal would be to crack eachother up by writing the most over the top, over-ripe, on-the-nose, spectacularly un-subtle scenes imaginable, and then every two pages remind the audience that the story wasn't really about golf but actually about, say, Life, and Family, and Love, and Loss, and....wait for it.....a Round of Matchplay in Heaven (sniff) with Bobby Jones (sniff, sniff)  I figure, if we could stomach it for more than a few days without packing it in and going to play golf before getting hammered on bourbon, I think we'd have a chance at a winner!! 

best
Peter

[Will Peterson]

A friend of mine was at a lecture given by Burns around 99-01.  During the Q&A portion, my friend asked if there were any other sports that he would be interesting in make a film about and mentioned golf.  Burns told him flat out that he had absolutely zero interest in doing a golf film. 

I don't know if this story is true, but if it is, I hope he would change his mind.  A golf film would be terrific.

[Sam Morrow]

Golf doesn't need Ken Burns for this, I want something done by people like Renton Laidlow, Ben Wright, Peter Kessler, and Peter Alliss.

[Tim Martin]

Golf doesn't need Ken Burns for this, I want something done by people like Renton Laidlow, Ben Wright, Peter Kessler, and Peter Alliss.

That`s quite a snub to Kelly Tilghman.

[Sam Morrow]

Golf doesn't need Ken Burns for this, I want something done by people like Renton Laidlow, Ben Wright, Peter Kessler, and Peter Alliss.

That`s quite a snub to Kelly Tilghman.

She can cover the 25 seconds that should be devoted to ladies golf.

[Bob_Huntley]

Golf doesn't need Ken Burns for this, I want something done by people like Renton Laidlow, Ben Wright, Peter Kessler, and Peter Alliss.

That`s quite a snub to Kelly Tilghman.

I would vote for Kessler. The Golf Channel has been a poorer place since his departure.

Bob

[Sam Morrow]

Golf doesn't need Ken Burns for this, I want something done by people like Renton Laidlow, Ben Wright, Peter Kessler, and Peter Alliss.

That`s quite a snub to Kelly Tilghman.

I would vote for Kessler. The Golf Channel has been a poorer place since his departure.

Bob

I will take Golf Talk Live over almost anything on there now. That was a great show and I think Kessler had a great sense of the history of the game.

[Jim_Kennedy]

Pete, you have a future in the novelist/screen writing realm. You outshone Mr. Frost.

The only minor nit would be it is hard to imagine Tom Morris' hand being gnarled at 30 years old, but just like Mr. Frost you didn't let minor facts get in the way of a good story.

Need a writing partner?

Cheers,
Dan King

All good writing is swimming under water and holding your breath.
 — F. Scott Fitzgerald

Or the glaring anachronism. 

[Tom_Doak]

I thought the USGA DID do a documentary on the history of golf years ago ... with Robert Wagner narrating it.  But maybe it was just a series of short pieces, I can't remember for sure.

There WILL be a PBS documentary on golf course architecture coming out later this summer ... I've got the details at home.  They spent some time with us at Streamsong last year, and I know they spent a lot of time following Bill Coore around.

[Phil McDade]

A similar idea from a couple of years ago:

http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,44050.msg958231.html#msg958231

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