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Mark Saltzman

Name That Hole - Vol. 3 New
« on: June 09, 2012, 09:12:46 PM »
Name the course and the hole number.  List the architect if you choose.  Feel free to discuss the architecture depicted in the pictures.

1. Gozzer Ranch - Hole 16


2. Sand Hills - Hole 7



3. Prairie Club (Horse) - Hole ?



4. Oakland Hills (South) - Hole 12



5.




6. Flint Hills National - Hole 18



7. Dallas National - Hole 10



8. The Patriot - Hole 6b




9. Southern Hills - Hole 13




10. Oak Tree National - Hole 11




11. Carolina GC - Hole 7




12.



13. Shinnecock Hills - Hole 3




14. Maidstone - Hole 8




15. Colorado - Hole 11




16.




17. Burlington - Hole 10




18. Hamilton - Hole 10
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Mike Hamilton

Re: Name That Hole - Vol. 3
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2012, 09:27:14 PM »
11. Thirteenth at Carolina Golf Club in Charlotte (Ross)
18. Tenth at Hamilton Golf and CC in Ancaster ON (colt)
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JC Jones

Re: Name That Hole - Vol. 3
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2012, 09:39:27 PM »
Quote from: Mike Hamilton on June 09, 2012, 09:27:14 PM
11. Thirteenth at Carolina Golf Club in Charlotte (Ross)
18. Tenth at Hamilton Golf and CC in Ancaster ON (colt)

11 is #7 at CGC
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I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Sam Morrow

Re: Name That Hole - Vol. 3
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2012, 09:53:25 PM »
2. Prairie Club Dunes?
3. Prairie Club Horse?
6. Flint Hills National?
7. 10 at Dallas National
8. Patriot?
9. 13 at Southern Hills
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Bill McKinley

Re: Name That Hole - Vol. 3
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2012, 09:56:10 PM »
4.  #12 at Oakland Hills South.  Ross
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Ed Brzezowski

Re: Name That Hole - Vol. 3
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2012, 09:57:52 PM »
8 looks a lot like a hole on DruidsGlen.  Hard to tell since we played it in a hurricane
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Mike Hamilton

Re: Name That Hole - Vol. 3
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2012, 10:02:10 PM »
Quote from: JC Jones on June 09, 2012, 09:39:27 PM
Quote from: Mike Hamilton on June 09, 2012, 09:27:14 PM
11. Thirteenth at Carolina Golf Club in Charlotte (Ross)
18. Tenth at Hamilton Golf and CC in Ancaster ON (colt)

11 is #7 at CGC

My memory's not so good...tried to peg it in the routing on google but for some reason was thinking back nine...7 makes more sense.   The one with the that leaves you 40 yards out if you miss short right?
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JC Jones

Re: Name That Hole - Vol. 3
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2012, 10:10:12 PM »
Quote from: Mike Hamilton on June 09, 2012, 10:02:10 PM
Quote from: JC Jones on June 09, 2012, 09:39:27 PM
Quote from: Mike Hamilton on June 09, 2012, 09:27:14 PM
11. Thirteenth at Carolina Golf Club in Charlotte (Ross)
18. Tenth at Hamilton Golf and CC in Ancaster ON (colt)

11 is #7 at CGC

My memory's not so good...tried to peg it in the routing on google but for some reason was thinking back nine...7 makes more sense.   The one with the that leaves you 40 yards out if you miss short right?

Yes.  Big time false front.  Dont be short but also, don't be above the pin!!
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I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Mark Saltzman

Re: Name That Hole - Vol. 3
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2012, 10:16:45 PM »
Quote from: JC Jones on June 09, 2012, 10:10:12 PM


Yes.  Big time false front.  Dont be short but also, don't be above the pin!!

Really, really good green.
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Ben Sims

Re: Name That Hole - Vol. 3
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2012, 10:27:42 PM »
13.  Has a Shinny look to it.  But I'm probably wrong.

15.  Colorado Golf Club, #11. 
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Ed Oden

Re: Name That Hole - Vol. 3
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2012, 10:35:13 PM »
10 is #11 at Oak Tree National and 13 is #3 at Shinnecock.
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Mark Saltzman

Re: Name That Hole - Vol. 3
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2012, 10:41:34 PM »
Quote from: Ed Oden on June 09, 2012, 10:35:13 PM
10 is #11 at Oak Tree National

I thought you may get that one! 

Ed made one of the all-time great up-and-downs I've seen short-sided left in that deep green side bunker.
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Ed Oden

Re: Name That Hole - Vol. 3
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2012, 11:02:02 PM »
It was hard to identify that photo as Oak Tree National since there isn't a tree in the line of play.
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Mark Saltzman

Re: Name That Hole - Vol. 3
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2012, 11:06:25 PM »
Quote from: Ed Oden on June 09, 2012, 11:02:02 PM
It was hard to identify that photo as Oak Tree National since there isn't a tree in the line of play.

 :D Ed, scroll right.  At least a piece of the green is blocked-out from the right-centre part of the fairway.
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Will Lozier

Re: Name That Hole - Vol. 3
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2012, 11:29:48 PM »
14...Maidstone?  #8?  Willie Park

17...looks like Stanley Thompson, perhaps St. George's?
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Michael George

Re: Name That Hole - Vol. 3
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2012, 11:33:20 PM »
#1 is Gozzer Ranch
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Gene Greco

Re: Name That Hole - Vol. 3
« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2012, 11:35:49 PM »
13 is the 3rd hole at Shinnecock Hills from the Red tee

2 is the green side bunker at the short 7th at Sand Hills
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Mark Saltzman

Re: Name That Hole - Vol. 3
« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2012, 11:42:04 PM »
Quote from: Will Lozier on June 09, 2012, 11:29:48 PM

17...looks like Stanley Thompson, perhaps St. George's?

Will, good eye, that is [restored] Thompson bunkering but it's not St George's.  This is one of his lesser-known works, and as such may be a difficult one to identify.

His bunkers do have flair, don't they!
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Will Lozier

Re: Name That Hole - Vol. 3
« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2012, 11:46:57 PM »
Mark,

Having played Highland and Banff, I did recognize those forms...has Ian A. redone these?

Is Maidstone correct?

Cheers
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Mark Saltzman

Re: Name That Hole - Vol. 3
« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2012, 11:49:18 PM »
Quote from: Will Lozier on June 09, 2012, 11:46:57 PM
Mark,

Having played Highland and Banff, I did recognize those forms...has Ian A. redone these?

Is Maidstone correct?

Cheers

Yep Maidstone is right.

The Thompson course hired Carrick to do their master plan and are redoing the bunkers in stages.  Though I believe Ian was working with Doug when the work started in 2006ish, I don't know if Ian was involved with this project.

Edit: A quick look at Ian's website shows he is not the current architect of record with the club. 

Off-topic, but I am excited to see he is the architect of record for another Thompson/Robinson course I'm visiting tomorrow -- The Briars -- interested to see what work has been done there.
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Will Lozier

Re: Name That Hole - Vol. 3
« Reply #20 on: June 09, 2012, 11:54:06 PM »
Thanks for the hint....still looking! ???  These are great threads!  Thanks!

Cheers
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Jeff Goldman

Re: Name That Hole - Vol. 3
« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2012, 11:58:59 PM »
5 looks like 12 on the river course at blackwolf run
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That was one hellacious beaver.

Will Lozier

Re: Name That Hole - Vol. 3
« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2012, 12:00:16 AM »
Is 17 Burlington #9?
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Mark Saltzman

Re: Name That Hole - Vol. 3
« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2012, 12:10:14 AM »
Quote from: Will Lozier on June 10, 2012, 12:00:16 AM
Is 17 Burlington #9?

Right course, wrong hole.  How'd you figure out it's Burlington?
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Will Lozier

Re: Name That Hole - Vol. 3
« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2012, 12:20:50 AM »
Quote from: Mark Saltzman on June 10, 2012, 12:10:14 AM
Quote from: Will Lozier on June 10, 2012, 12:00:16 AM
Is 17 Burlington #9?

Right course, wrong hole.  How'd you figure out it's Burlington?

I know of the course - I played HL & Banff on my cross-Canada honeymoon during which I often read Confidential Guide and did other Thompson research - but really needed your hint.  Looked like Toronto topography to me but needed to visit Carrick's website and then look at some aerials.  I am not all that familiar with the routing.  Is it #10?
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