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Andrew Lewis

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Kingsley Club -- changes on 9th hole
« on: June 03, 2012, 07:54:01 PM »
For those expecting news of green contours being softened or recovery areas being made less severe, please stop reading now because this may give you heartburn:  a new back tee is being added that will play at approximately 227 yards  :o  (For those keeping score, that adds ~60 yards to the current south tip distance.)

The box is in line with the current back tee on the south box, perched on the peak of the dune that features the Three Amigos bunker complex off the right side of the 8th hole.  Our director of golf indicated that it would be seeded soon and thus hopefully open for play later this year.

I plan to take a couple swings tomorrow and, for the masochist in all of us, will try to post a few photos as well.

Chris_Hufnagel

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Re: Kingsley Club -- changes on 9th hole
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2012, 08:24:15 PM »
For those expecting news of green contours being softened or recovery areas being made less severe, please stop reading now because this may give you heartburn:  a new back tee is being added that will play at approximately 227 yards  :o  (For those keeping score, that adds ~60 yards to the current south tip distance.)

The box is in line with the current back tee on the south box, perched on the peak of the dune that features the Three Amigos bunker complex off the right side of the 8th hole.  Our director of golf indicated that it would be seeded soon and thus hopefully open for play later this year.

I plan to take a couple swings tomorrow and, for the masochist in all of us, will try to post a few photos as well.

Andrew, I heard this news last month while sitting on an Adirondack chair over looking the ninth green and sipping on an Diabolical Ale...that will be one heck of tee ball...7 iron is one thing into that green...a hybrid is something all together different...
« Last Edit: June 03, 2012, 08:56:39 PM by Chris Hufnagel »

Mike Boehm

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Re: Kingsley Club -- changes on 9th hole
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2012, 08:27:37 PM »
I love Kingsley - not sure this change improves it at all though.  #9 was pushing the envelope at the previous distances, 227 to that green is a bit over-the-top.

Andrew Lewis

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Re: Kingsley Club -- changes on 9th hole
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2012, 08:55:33 PM »

This tee will very seldom be in play as the marked box for the day.  However, the club does host a collegiate event every year, and those guys definitely can handle the extra distance.

Personally, I look forward to it as an option for matches in which the team with the honor calls the box.  (Paging Jud Tigerman....)

Ben Sims

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Re: Kingsley Club -- changes on 9th hole
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2012, 09:16:19 PM »
Is this because #2 already plays at a similar yardage?  Just for the better player events?  

I love Kingsley.  But #9 needs a new tee with 70 yds added the way I need eyes like Marty Feldman's.  

Jon Heise

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Re: Kingsley Club -- changes on 9th hole
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2012, 09:35:52 PM »
I'd like it if it was 60 yards CLOSER.
I still like Greywalls better.

Mark Saltzman

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Re: Kingsley Club -- changes on 9th hole
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2012, 09:51:35 PM »
Back tees are currently 6,956.  Add 60 yards and you get the all-important 7xxx back-tee yardage.  Just sayin...

Mac Plumart

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Re: Kingsley Club -- changes on 9th hole
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2012, 09:58:10 PM »

This tee will very seldom be in play as the marked box for the day.  However, the club does host a collegiate event every year, and those guys definitely can handle the extra distance.

Personally, I look forward to it as an option for matches in which the team with the honor calls the box.  (Paging Jud Tigerman....)

The beauty of multiple tees on a private/members course. 
Sportsman/Adventure loving golfer.

JC Jones

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Re: Kingsley Club -- changes on 9th hole
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2012, 10:07:34 PM »
I'm not sure why people here are questioning a tee they will NEVER play from.  If KC feels they need it for tournament hosting reasons then I'm all for the addition.  It doesn't affect me nor does it anyone on this site so everyone just chill.

Andrew,

I'd love to take Jud to that tee, though.  That's like driver, 9 iron for him :)
I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Jud_T

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Re: Kingsley Club -- changes on 9th hole
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2012, 08:30:17 AM »
Andrew and JC,

I'll take my chances with my 3 finger Driver vs. your six iron there....Now we need a thread about the new back tee on #4.... :o
« Last Edit: June 04, 2012, 08:44:41 AM by Jud Tigerman »
Golf is a game. We play it. Somewhere along the way we took the fun out of it and charged a premium to be punished.- - Ron Sirak

Bill_McBride

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Re: Kingsley Club -- changes on 9th hole
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2012, 09:15:21 AM »
In a bunker will be the only play. 

Jud_T

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Re: Kingsley Club -- changes on 9th hole
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2012, 09:22:26 AM »
Bill,

Not for kids who can hit a 220 yard 5 iron that lands like a butterfly with sore feet.  That's who that box is intended for...
« Last Edit: June 04, 2012, 09:24:06 AM by Jud Tigerman »
Golf is a game. We play it. Somewhere along the way we took the fun out of it and charged a premium to be punished.- - Ron Sirak

Bill_McBride

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Re: Kingsley Club -- changes on 9th hole
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2012, 09:23:56 AM »
Bill,

Not for kids who can hit a 220 yard 5 iron that lands like a butterfly with sore feet.  That's who that box is intended for...

That's a game with which I'm not familiar!

JC Jones

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Re: Kingsley Club -- changes on 9th hole
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2012, 10:07:56 AM »
Andrew and JC,

I'll take my chances with my 3 finger Driver vs. your six iron there....

ANYTIME!

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Now we need a thread about the new back tee on #4.... :o

That I'm curious to see.  It'd be fun to hit something other than hybrid/5-iron off of that tee.
I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Jud_T

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Re: Kingsley Club -- changes on 9th hole
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2012, 10:10:39 AM »
I believe the new tee on 4 will be behind, below and to the left of the current box, so not only will it play a bit longer but importantly the fairway will be even less visible and it will play less downhill with a different angle for the tee shot.  
« Last Edit: June 04, 2012, 10:25:20 AM by Jud Tigerman »
Golf is a game. We play it. Somewhere along the way we took the fun out of it and charged a premium to be punished.- - Ron Sirak

Andrew Lewis

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Re: Kingsley Club -- changes on 9th hole
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2012, 10:29:46 AM »
I believe the new tee on 4 will be behind, below and to the left of the current box, so not only will it play a bit longer but importantly the fairway will be even less visible and it will play less downhill.  

That is correct.  The clearing for the new tee is in the tree-line about half-way between 4 tee and 6 green, behind the big white rock.

The flag is visible from the new location, but the line off the tee will play into the large ridge that cuts diagonally across the fairway.  If anything, it may be a bit uphill.

Michael Wharton-Palmer

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Re: Kingsley Club -- changes on 9th hole
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2012, 10:58:06 AM »
COOL....Not sures I would want to plat it from there everyday but once out of three rounds in an event..perfect...that really does sound like a considerable challenge.
Cant wait to see it.

JC Jones

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Re: Kingsley Club -- changes on 9th hole
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2012, 11:12:02 AM »
I think a tee next to 8 green would be great too. 

I like the location of the new 4th tee.  It also makes the 4 tee to 6 green par 3 a bit more manageable!!
I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

George Freeman

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Re: Kingsley Club -- changes on 9th hole
« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2012, 11:15:55 AM »
The new tee on #9 sounds like pure evil.  It MIGHT be do-able with a strong south wind and a left bowl pin placement.  If it was playing into the wind, I would be hitting a FAIRWAY WOOD.  Now that is a scary thought.  However, I understand the need to challenge the college kids.  They definitely play a completely different game...

The new tee on #4 sounds very cool.  Should be a really different look off the tee hitting up and over the hill from a new angle (and the undulations of the fairway playing differently as well).  VERY cool that you can see the pin, which I'm not sure is the case from the current tees.  Should be fun playing a little longer iron into that incredible green.
Mayhugh is my hero!!

"I love creating great golf courses.  I love shaping earth...it's a canvas." - Donald J. Trump

JC Jones

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Re: Kingsley Club -- changes on 9th hole
« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2012, 11:30:22 AM »
A a double cross fairway wood definitely brings the clubhouse into play  ;D

I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Buck Wolter

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Re: Kingsley Club -- changes on 9th hole
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2012, 07:14:25 PM »
For those expecting news of green contours being softened or recovery areas being made less severe, please stop reading now

Have to admit that's what I was afraid of.

Hopefully this tee will be open in time for the shootout at the Member Guest Mid-July-- won't make me feel so bad getting a stroke on a par 3 when it's that hard. I see a little cut driver as the play --hell maybe a full driver for me. I like to play from 8 fairway occasionally when I'm walking and the tees are up the hill behind 8.
Those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience -- CS Lewis

Chris_Hufnagel

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Re: Kingsley Club -- changes on 9th hole
« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2012, 07:53:34 PM »
Here is an image from Google Earth - the yellow line represents the approximate line from where I believe the new tee will be placed to the center of the green.  According to Google Earth the distance is 230 yards...

For me, it will certainly be a significant challenge - but I would probably like to play that shot every once in awhile.  But as has been mentioned here previously, for the better players and for competitions it probably makes some sense to force a longer iron into the hands of the competitors...


JC Jones

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Re: Kingsley Club -- changes on 9th hole
« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2012, 08:59:52 PM »
That's insanity!!  I love it. 

Jud would have to play to 8 green and then over from there ;D
I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Wade Schueneman

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Re: Kingsley Club -- changes on 9th hole
« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2012, 09:09:11 PM »
Well, there is a nice steep backboard in back, so in that sense I can see it being doable for the long hitter on a calm day.

On the other hand, on a windy day that should be a VERY exposed shot!

JC Jones

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Re: Kingsley Club -- changes on 9th hole
« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2012, 09:31:17 PM »
That's a good call, Wade.  The longer hitter can play for the hill behind and have it roll back down onto the green.
I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

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