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Phil McDade

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A bit OT -- NCAA Div. 3 golf championship
« on: May 10, 2012, 08:41:27 AM »
At the risk of calling undue attention when it's not been requested or even suggested.... :D

....and, instead, in the hope of creating some good karma that seems to occur when the collective thoughts of the GCA board are brought to bear for a good cause (be it someone's health, or just a round of golf)..... ;)

I hope some here might find a few minutes during the next two days to follow the NCAA Div. 3 women's golf championship being held in Indiana:

http://www.ncaa.com/content/diii-women-team-leaderboard

Check out the individual leaderboard, and sitting just three strokes out of first place -- halfway through the championship -- is one Rose Kelly of Illinois Wesleyan. Rose is the daughter of Dan Kelly, a scribe for the St. Paul Pioneer Press, and frequent GCA contributor. Dan's in Indiana, following Rose, who opened the championship with a career-best 73 and followed with a solid 79 on the second day. Her Illinois Wesleyan team sits in 7th place in the team race.

(Short explanatory sidebar: Dan's about the last guy who'd request or even hint at publicity for Rose's accomplishments. Us parents of Division 3 athletes aren't like that! But -- as a fellow parent of a D3 collegiate athlete ((maybe the purest form of athletic competition left out there)) -- I thought the GCA board might want to send along its collective best wishes to one of our own's own. I came across the tournament by checking on the athletics website for UW-Eau Claire, where my son attends, and noticed the Blugolds women's team had made the national tournament, and recalled previous conversations with Dan about Rose playing for Ill. Wesleyan, and participating in last year's national championship tournament as well. Any residual best wishes for the UW-Eau Claire women's team -- just two strokes off the lead against perennial D3 power Methodist University -- would also be appreciated. ;D)


Jason Topp

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Re: A bit OT -- NCAA Div. 3 golf championship
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2012, 08:48:00 AM »
Go Rose!


Tim Martin

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Re: A bit OT -- NCAA Div. 3 golf championship
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2012, 08:59:13 AM »
Love to hear this kind of stuff. Go Rose!
« Last Edit: May 10, 2012, 09:01:19 AM by Tim Martin »

Pete_Pittock

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Re: A bit OT -- NCAA Div. 3 golf championship
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2012, 09:55:32 AM »
wild.     Stick it to 'em.     

BCrosby

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Re: A bit OT -- NCAA Div. 3 golf championship
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2012, 10:18:16 AM »
Go Rose. I'm more worried about Dan Kelly (copyright reserved). Let's hope he can keep his cool

Update us on the tournament.

Bob

Dan Kelly

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Re: A bit OT -- NCAA Div. 3 golf championship
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2012, 10:29:29 AM »
Thanks, guys.

Bob is right to worry more about me than about Rose! She's one of the level heads in the family. I'm still stewing a little about the messy double-bogey that ended yesterday's round. I'm sure she's moved on ... and is ready to give it her best shot today and tomorrow.

She's always a good sport, and always thinking at least as much about the team as about herself.

Yeah, I'm one proud papa -- no matter the scores.

Dan

P.S., and to make this less OT: I *really* like the Zollner Course, at Trine University in Angola, Indiana -- a true Hidden Gem (and a great bargain, to boot).

It's a beautiful, rolling, sometimes steeply hilly piece of land, and whoever designed the course laid a bunch of really sporty holes on it.

I suppose some would quibble about three of the four par-3s being uphill, but they're all really good holes, I think.

Some might not care for the fact that both of the steepest uphill shots are blind seconds on par-5s -- but I think that's a great use for a really steep hill. (Minnesota GCAers might picture the hill at North Oaks 18 or Minikahda 9. I think Zollner's are at least that steep.)

Some might not care for the dramatic tilts on numerous greens -- but I, for one, love them.

I'd play the course often, if I lived anywhere around here. And my legs would get stronger.
« Last Edit: May 10, 2012, 10:43:18 AM by Dan Kelly »
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PCCraig

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Re: A bit OT -- NCAA Div. 3 golf championship
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2012, 10:32:18 AM »
Go Rose!
H.P.S.

Malcolm Mckinnon

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Re: A bit OT -- NCAA Div. 3 golf championship
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2012, 10:37:50 AM »
What a great experience to be competing in an NCAA championship at any level. You have to hand it to all these kids.

My son's college, Nebraska Wesleyan, is in the D3 field for the 28th time. Methodist does seem to be a powerhouse in D3 golf with 32 consecutive years for the Mens team.

My club is home for Princeton Tiger Golf and we have several invitational tournaments every year. Fun to watch!




Chris Clouser

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Re: A bit OT -- NCAA Div. 3 golf championship
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2012, 11:07:12 AM »
Dan,

Good to see your daughter well. 

Zollner is a nice course.  It didn't make the cut, but was in that next group of courses, that I considered focusing on in my Indiana golf book.  That area north of FW has some good courses, but gets very little publicity.  Lake James is a step behind Zollner but good.  Also, Glendarin Hills, Cobblestone, and Noble Hawk give it some nice variety up there as well. 

Rich Goodale

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Re: A bit OT -- NCAA Div. 3 golf championship
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2012, 11:40:47 AM »
Dan

Great to see that you and Patty are living the American Dream, i.e. producing and raising sprogs who are more talented that you (insert superfluous exclamation point and/or smiley face here).

Goes Rose

Rich
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Tim Gavrich

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Re: A bit OT -- NCAA Div. 3 golf championship
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2012, 12:03:46 PM »
I got to play in the D-III National Championship as a freshman at W&L and it was the coolest golf tournament I've ever participated in.

Malcolm--

You're right about Methodist.  We'd play against them three or four tournaments every year and they have always been, at the very least, very good.  It certainly helps when you have a full-size PGM program but are a D-III program--I'll never quite understand that one.  Nevertheless, they are always tough to beat.
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Garland Bayley

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Re: A bit OT -- NCAA Div. 3 golf championship
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2012, 12:23:51 PM »
Four stroke separate Gustavus and St. Olaf after two rounds. That is where the real dogfight of this tournament is.

Hope Rose blooms today.
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

C. Squier

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Re: A bit OT -- NCAA Div. 3 golf championship
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2012, 12:35:16 PM »
Awesome!  I'm a proud IWU alum myself (as is fellow GCA'er Greg Ohlendorf) and happy to see both IWU teams doing well this year.  Wish I could say the team was this good when I played, but it wasn't even close. 

Phil McDade

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Re: A bit OT -- NCAA Div. 3 golf championship
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2012, 01:09:03 PM »
Four stroke separate Gustavus and St. Olaf after two rounds. That is where the real dogfight of this tournament is.



Lutheran humor on the GCA discussion board! ;D Who'd've thunk?

Garland Bayley

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Re: A bit OT -- NCAA Div. 3 golf championship
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2012, 08:39:01 PM »
Nice 36 from Rose coming in.

St. Olaf beat Gustavus.  :( For me.  ;) for Garrison.
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Dan Kelly

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Re: A bit OT -- NCAA Div. 3 golf championship
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2012, 08:58:21 PM »
What a strange game golf is!

Rose and her teammates started off Day 3 just TERRIBLY! Their four best scores on the opening nine (10-18 at the Zollner Course) were a combined 28 over par.

Their combined total on their back nine: 2 over par. That second nine might be marginally easier than the first nine -- but only marginally.

Rose was 8 over par for her first eight holes -- including a double bogey on her fourth hole (No. 13) that included a missed putt from no more than 2 feet. (She estimated 1 foot.)

Then, beginning at her ninth hole (No. 18), she reeled off 10 straight pars, to finish at 80. That streak of pars included three outstanding ups-and-downs, but also included missed birdie putts from less than 10 feet on three or four holes, including the last, where she nearly holed her approach for eagle and then missed a sliding left-to-right 6-footer by a hair.

She stands at 12th Overall in the tournament, seven back of the leader. A good round tomorrow could give her a top-10 for the second year in a row.

The team remains in 7th, 24 shots out of first. They were thrilled to have held steady on the back nine, to hold their position in the top 10.

Thanks for your support!

Dan

P.S. I TOLD you Rose was one of the level-headed ones in the family. If I'd been 8-over after 8, there's no way in hell I'd have finished 8-over after 18.
« Last Edit: May 10, 2012, 09:00:09 PM by Dan Kelly »
"There's no money in doing less." -- Joe Hancock, 11/25/2010
"Rankings are silly and subjective..." -- Tom Doak, 3/12/2016

Chris_Hufnagel

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Re: A bit OT -- NCAA Div. 3 golf championship
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2012, 08:17:08 AM »
Here is my DIII golfing story...

I was a freshman at Alma College and went to the school to play basketball.  I had taken up golf late in life (junior high school) and fell immediately in love with it - my summer job in high school was caddying at the Country Club of Detroit.  I hit balls, played, and bought used clubs whenever I had some extra money in my pocket...

I decided to try out for the golf team - even though I wasn't very good.  I had never had a lesson and tried to turn a baseball swing into a golf swing.  I was consistently inconsistent - but I couldn't get enough.

One morning they had tryouts and I decided to try and walk-on.  Not only was I not a very good golfer, I was a bit of a head case and could easily get nervous - especially on first tees...

So, there I am - Pine River Country Club in Alma, Michigan.  First tee, varsity coach watching along with many other players milling about.  I had never played the course before - the first hole is either a long par four or five - I can't remember now.  It swings a bit right to left.  The hole also rises a bit from tee to fairway so the landing area is blind.

I was so nervous that I was simply focusing on not whiffing.  By some act of divine intervention, I made solid contact and hit a little pull with a little draw - but hard.  Certainly not a great golf shot by any standards, but for me, at that time, perhaps the purist stroke I had ever made.  As the ball reaches its apex and begins to come back to earth I hear the coach say - "I hope that doesn't reach the pond."  What pond?

Well, there is a small little pond in the corner of that dogleg and sure enough I never found my golf ball.  As previously stated, I am a bit of a head case and I never recovered.  The coach was nice enough to let me practice with the team and play the course from time to time, but needless to say - I never received the Jones Carry Bag, polo, or hat!
« Last Edit: May 12, 2012, 08:56:30 AM by Chris Hufnagel »

Jud_T

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Re: A bit OT -- NCAA Div. 3 golf championship
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2012, 09:46:11 AM »
Dan,

Congrats.  There's nothing quite like the exquisite joy and heartbreak of being a parent on the sidelines of your kids' sporting event.
Golf is a game. We play it. Somewhere along the way we took the fun out of it and charged a premium to be punished.- - Ron Sirak

RJ_Daley

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Re: A bit OT -- NCAA Div. 3 golf championship
« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2012, 03:39:51 PM »
Phil-Dan, is there a Father Son-Father Daughter match in the works this summer? 
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Phil McDade

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Re: A bit OT -- NCAA Div. 3 golf championship
« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2012, 03:56:14 PM »
Phil-Dan, is there a Father Son-Father Daughter match in the works this summer? 

RJ:

My son golfing would require protective gear of the sort worn by the Ill. Wesleyan/UW-EC football teams. He's the fish in the family (well, one of two....).


Doug Wright

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Re: A bit OT -- NCAA Div. 3 golf championship
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2012, 06:43:34 PM »
Dan,

Congrats.  There's nothing quite like the exquisite joy and heartbreak of being a parent on the sidelines of your kids' sporting event.

Amen to that Jud!

Dan, Best of luck to Rose. She has turned into a very good player.
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Phil McDade

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Re: A bit OT -- NCAA Div. 3 golf championship
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2012, 07:51:39 PM »
I'll let Dan fill in the details, but Rose finished T-17th overall, leading her team to an 8th-place finish in the team race. With a roster full of underclassmen (including Rose, a junior), expect the Titans to make a return visit to the NCAAs.

(Blugolds sidebar: UW-Eau Claire finished 3rd overall in the team race, and crowned the individual champion in Catherine Wagner, who earned more letters in high school playing hockey than golf! Gotta love D3 athletes. ;D).

Dan Kelly

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Re: A bit OT -- NCAA Div. 3 golf championship
« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2012, 12:40:04 AM »
I'll let Dan fill in the details, but Rose finished T-17th overall, leading her team to an 8th-place finish in the team race. With a roster full of underclassmen (including Rose, a junior), expect the Titans to make a return visit to the NCAAs.

Just filed my daily report to an email list of friends.

Here's what I said:

Dear Fans of Rose,

One of my favorite sportscasters, Al Shaver, always ended his sportscasts as follows:

"When you lose, say little. When you win, say less."

So I will say little.

Rose had a fine front nine today: a 1-over-par 37 -- including a very unfortunate bogey and double-bogey, both the result of missed short putts, followed by two excellent birdies.

10 and 11: two good up-and-down pars.

And that's when the trouble started.

Her drive on the 3rd hole (her 12th) was just left, and bounded into the rough until it came into perfect contact with the roots of a very large deciduous tree. And there it decided to rest. Terrible break. She punched out, hit the green with a fine third, and made bogey. No tragedy. Still just 2-over-par.

On the 4th, her drive was very slightly right, took a crazy-bad bounce right and ended up blocked by a Stupid Tree (one of those Christmas tree pines that ignorant green committees planted on courses from coast to coast). Rose hit that tree with her recovery (mistake hers), but then hit a fine mid-iron to the green ... and proceeded to three-putt from 25 feet (the second putt being at most a 3-footer). Double bogey. Tragedy nearing.

On the 5th, she made a routine par-5 -- missing a birdie by an inch on a 12-footer.

On the 6th, an uphill par-3 with a long, narrow green, with the pin way back right, she aimed at the center of the green, pushed it just a bit, came up one yard short of the green and kicked hard right, down an embankment. Nice pitch up, to 5 feet. A fellow-competitor on the same line hit a weak putt that curled away hard to the right. Rose hit a firm putt through the break and missed on the high side. Bogey. 5-over.

On the 7th, she absolutely nailed a drive. Longest of the week. But, unfortunately, a few yards left of the fairway -- and just long enough to be completely blocked by another Stupid Tree (Merry Christmas!). She tried to loft a 9-iron over it, but hit it thin -- and into the Stupid Tree it went, emerging on the other side by inches. Restricted backswing; punch it out. Hybrid from 190 just short of the green. Pitch up to the green. Two putts. Another double-bogey. 7-over.

The 8th, she played perfectly. Perfect tee shot, fine second, 20 feet for birdie -- just missed!

On the 9th, after a long wait while the group ahead searched for a lost ball, she hit a drive just right ... and, as you might have guessed, just exactly the right distance off the tee and distance off the fairway to put her in the grips of another Stupid Tree. Punch out, iron to the green, two putts -- bogey.

37-43 = 80.

She was really mad at herself for finishing poorly, though it didn't hurt the team, which would have finished 8th no matter what she did on the back nine.

REALLY bad luck. Couple of questionable decisions. And it was all over. She finished tied for 17th of 101 players.

Thanks.

Dan

P.S. I still really like the Zollner Course, which was in impeccable condition and presented a wide array of interesting challenges. But those Christmas trees have to go!

P.P.S. Next year, I hope to say less. Much less!
"There's no money in doing less." -- Joe Hancock, 11/25/2010
"Rankings are silly and subjective..." -- Tom Doak, 3/12/2016

Doug Wright

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Re: A bit OT -- NCAA Div. 3 golf championship
« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2012, 01:40:56 AM »
Dan,

Congratulations to Rose, well done.
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Garland Bayley

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Re: A bit OT -- NCAA Div. 3 golf championship
« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2012, 12:46:51 AM »
Will Rose be buying you a Stihl for Christmas?
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

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