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Michael Moore

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Foraging on the course / agricultural architecture
« on: April 29, 2012, 07:41:47 PM »
Today two of my partners at Riverside Municipal (North) in Portland, Maine did something I have never seen on a golf course.

On holes twelve, thirteen and fourteen by the eponymous Presumpscot River, they were foraging for fiddleheads, stuffing them into their golf bags by the fistful. After they again fell behind by 200 yards on the fourteenth hole, the other non-gatherer turned to me and said "This is unacceptable."

Have you ever picked food on the golf course? Have you ever seen a course that had an agricultural component?
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Carl Johnson

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Re: Foraging on the course / agricultural architecture
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2012, 07:57:36 PM »
Persimmon.  My innercity home course in the North Carolina piedmont region, built in the late 1920s on old farm land, has two persimmon trees that have been preserved (no pun intended) over the years.  I would guess that less than 2% of our membership are aware of the trees.  I've tried the persimmons, but other members of my Sunday foursome go "fruits" in the late fall when the persimmons are (marginally, in my view) edible (after fallen to the ground).  I have no idea what the heritage of these trees are, but one of my foursome insists they are preshistoric and were eaten by dinosaurs.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persimmon  Personally, I would not recommend them.  (I would like to brag that when our course was redone about five years ago, and we cut down a lot of trees, our architect and superintendent had the knowledge and good sense to leave these two trees alone.)  Also, black raspberry on the course at the Mt. Mitchell Golf Club in Yancey Co., NC.  However, these guys are so common in the woods in that area they are little noticed -- though not unnoticed -- on the golf course. http://www.duke.edu/~cwcook/trees/ruoc.html
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Tom_Doak

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Re: Foraging on the course / agricultural architecture
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2012, 07:58:49 PM »
Crystal Downs has some old apple trees on the back nine that produce some good apples in the fall ... you just have to find one that the worms haven't gotten to.  [Maintaining the trees would require extensive spraying, so they don't spray them.]

Twenty years ago, we used to find wild strawberries in the roughs and blackberries in some bushes between holes -- they were delicious!  But they've eradicated most of those now.  :(  You can find the occasional morel out there, too, unless the other members beat you to them.

Eric Smith

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Re: Foraging on the course / agricultural architecture
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2012, 08:12:38 PM »
I'll never forget eating a ton of delicious blackberries, which were the size of strawberries (!), on the upper holes at Royal Porthcawl. 

Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Foraging on the course / agricultural architecture
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2012, 08:28:18 PM »
A couple of courses in my area allow players to pick apples from the surrounding trees. Red and black raspberries are pretty common at some places, as is sweet corn on a couple others. We have one member who picks small puffball mushrooms whenever they appear and a couple others who know where the morels hide out.
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David_Tepper

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Re: Foraging on the course / agricultural architecture
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2012, 08:29:11 PM »
I regularly see a variety of interesting looking mushrooms on the course when I play Golspie. While I am very tempted to pick some of them to take home for dinner, so far I have refrained from doing so as I know little about which ones are and are not edible. Mushroom poisoning is a very painful way to die.  
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Scott Warren

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Re: Foraging on the course / agricultural architecture
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2012, 08:37:31 PM »
The mulberry tree at the course I grew up playing used to provide a great snack while walking from 11 to 12 and again from 17 to 18.

But it also ruined one of my favourite golf shirts* when I was about 14, so I'll call its overall impact neutral.

*Of course my mum was adamant that the tree hadn't ruined my shirt,I had ruined my shirt...

John Shimp

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Re: Foraging on the course / agricultural architecture
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2012, 09:24:53 PM »
The monsterous and perfect blackberries at Woking (-and other Surrey courses) are a real treat in August.  Right of hole 4 was ideal  there twosummers ago.

Colin Macqueen

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Re: Foraging on the course / agricultural architecture
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2012, 11:09:22 PM »
Michael, David,

I had forgotten this turn of events.  When I was a member at Yowani Golf Club in Canberra I played quite a few times with a chap (Bernie?) who was aboriginal. Now he would garner mushrooms when the weather gave rise to an abundance of them.  He never used to slow down play as he gathered them very quickly. We invariably teased him that it was his heritage that allowed him to identify and harvest this "bush tucker" so quickly. On one occasion, during a round, when a galah got killed by an errant golf ball there was an hilarious discussion with Bernie as to whether or not the bird should be "harvested". Bernie declined on the basis that there were no mushrooms available due to the local drought. Madness!

When I came to Australia I was delighted to learn that the word budgerigar stemmed from the Aboriginal word "betcherrigah". This came about as the "white fellas" would point and ask what that common bird was and the Aboriginals would reply "betcherrigah" which in that particular dialect meant "good to eat"!!

There you go some useless information that has nothing to do with golf course architecture!

Cheers Colin
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Jeffrey Stein

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Re: Foraging on the course / agricultural architecture
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2012, 11:44:04 PM »
Tom,

What about the cherry trees on the front nine at High Pointe!  Were those planted during the construction of the golf course? I have a great memory of my first trip there (during the cherry festival no less) stuffing my face after the 5th green.  Delicious!
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Brett_Morrissy

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Re: Foraging on the course / agricultural architecture
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2012, 12:17:48 AM »
couple of weeks ago, while looking for a playing partners ball in our salt marsh hazard, I picked a couple of pieces of local natural plant leaves and stems for them to try, a local saltbush, samphire, puslane ...suggesting they would go superbly with their fish they were cooking for dinner with a delicious salty crunchy texture and taste!
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Joel_Stewart

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Re: Foraging on the course / agricultural architecture
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2012, 12:22:07 AM »
Rustic Canyon has some type of an tree orchard on the back nine.  I'm pretty sure many people tend to help themselves.

Giles Payne

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Re: Foraging on the course / agricultural architecture
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2012, 04:23:21 AM »
I remember playing at Rye with a younger member who on about the seventh made his apologies and disappeared for a couple of minutes - he came back with a bunch of wild asparagus as a peace offering for his mother (who he had not sen the previous night as he had got down form London rather latea and gone straight out!).

I have had some great chestnuts from Swinley.

I too have seen many mushrooms (some of which look like porcini) but I have never had the courage (or stupidity) to try them.

Rich Goodale

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Re: Foraging on the course / agricultural architecture
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2012, 05:05:35 AM »
As others have said, there are wild berries rampant on many courses in the UK, best usually in the mid-late summer.  Never forget, however, Rule #1:  Never eat a berry which is growing lower than waist hieght.....
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Neil White

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Re: Foraging on the course / agricultural architecture
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2012, 05:12:41 AM »
Michael,

My home course has a number of cherry trees dotted around the course adjacent to greens and tees which when ripe are a stopping point for many a golfer during his round.  We also have blackberries intertwined into the perimeter hedges which only the brave will try and pick - at another local course there is a juniper bush behind one of the tees which is foraged by a few to assist in the making of gin.

Neil.

Dónal Ó Ceallaigh

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Re: Foraging on the course / agricultural architecture
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2012, 05:19:03 AM »
Michael,

It's very common to pick mushrooms on the golf course in Sweden during the autumn. Most Swedes are very knowledgable about what ones can and can't be eaten.

Doug Spets

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Re: Foraging on the course / agricultural architecture
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2012, 05:54:36 AM »
i'd always forget to bring a big sack when i played the 16th at Tom Fazio's Woodcreek Farms outside Columbia SC.  A row of about 15 pecan trees line the left side of the uphill par 4's fairway.  Not sure if they're still there since its been years since I've played Woodcreek...but they could present quite a hazard when it came to lies.

Also...behind the 16th at Hamilton Farm in Gladstone NJ, there are plenty of raspberry and blackberry bushes...and they really do taste better off the vine. 

Mike Sweeney

Re: Foraging on the course / agricultural architecture
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2012, 06:57:34 AM »

Have you ever picked food on the golf course? Have you ever seen a course that had an agricultural component?

Mr Moore will have to cross 3 state lines, but down here in Southern New England:

Lyman Orchards Golf Club is the perfect golf venue with two unique designs and the rich history of the farm which dates from 1741. The world-renowned property grows apples, peaches, pears, pumpkins, blueberries, and raspberries. Over 40,000 fruit trees grace the farm’s rolling hills and guests are invited and encouraged to “pick-their-own” produce throughout the growing season.


http://www.ctvisit.com/properties/summary?propertyid=1753

Tony Ristola

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Re: Foraging on the course / agricultural architecture
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2012, 09:14:32 AM »
Cherries, salmon berries and black berries were common 30-years ago on my home course. Can't say I've done any foraging since then.

BCrosby

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Re: Foraging on the course / agricultural architecture
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2012, 10:34:24 AM »
Blackberries are abundant along the edges of the Sewanee College course in late summer. We would collect them in plastic baggies and serve them at dinner. Delicious.

Bob

Niall C

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Re: Foraging on the course / agricultural architecture
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2012, 01:28:42 PM »
I regularly see a variety of interesting looking mushrooms on the course when I play Golspie. While I am very tempted to pick some of them to take home for dinner, so far I have refrained from doing so as I know little about which ones are and are not edible. Mushroom poisoning is a very painful way to die.  

DT

One of my playing partners at Silloth used to do it all the time, never seemed to have a problem. I used to get them from the salt marsh near where I lived. Of course that was before I heard about the poisonous ones.

Niall

Mike Hendren

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Re: Foraging on the course / agricultural architecture
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2012, 01:42:26 PM »
Beware the berries at Foulpointe!
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Doug Lindahl

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Re: Foraging on the course / agricultural architecture
« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2012, 02:02:45 PM »
The Vineyard GC on Martha's Vineyard has some wild blueberry bushes in the woods to the right of the third green.  Secession golf club has some rosemary growing in spots which was the inspiration once for a rack of lamb I devoured.  The oysters out in the marsh are more then edible....they are downright tasty.  They grow in clumps making it impossible to serve on the half shell. A clump might have 20 oysters on it.  This  makes them unmarketable to restaurants, not the taste.   Pecans at Penny Branch are always a treat.  Blackberries have to be one of the more common foraging items and I see them everywhere.  Dormie Club has several persimmon trees.  I am always amused people can't identify the tree that their clubs were once made from.  My favorite was standing on the 16th tee during an e-golf event at Southern Pines eating the mulberries.  The guys I was playing with were actually concerned for my safety.  We all had purple lips by the time we got to hit a half hour later.   In case you couldn't tell, I love free food!

Mike Hogan

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Re: Foraging on the course / agricultural architecture
« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2012, 06:48:12 PM »
Here is a nice shot of a fellow GCA'er at Northland CC foraging on Native berries.

Dave McCollum

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Re: Foraging on the course / agricultural architecture
« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2012, 09:22:18 PM »
Canyon Springs, my course in Idaho, was built in an old orchard.  The ground is pure sand, so, like a links, rather worthless for other agriculture.  Here’s our list of edible offerings:  apples, pears, cherries, strawberries, mulberries, black walnuts, and wild asparagus, currently in season.  At one time there were peaches and other offerings but those were consumed by the second nine.  My father Joe built the course.  When they were casting about for a name, I didn’t play golf and suggested “Joe’s Pick ‘n Play” with little baskets attached to the carts and trolleys.  It was all folly to me at the time.
 
A friend told me about playing a course on the Big Island in Hawaii.  There were peacocks roaming around and his wife nailed one in the head with her tee shot.  Killed it on the spot.  They snuck off as quickly as they could.  Later, when they told a Hawaiian friend the story, he eagerly asked if they brought it home.  The said of course not.  “Damn,” he said “delicious.”

My own birdie story comes from Palm Springs.  Playing a driver over a lake, I topped it and hit an isolated coot.  It didn’t die right away, but sort of writhed and flopped around on the surface for awhile.  Three other coots swam over to investigate the disturbance.  My playing partner just said “Here come the lawyer coots.”