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Patrick_Mucci

Re: Is it even worth it?
« Reply #100 on: April 22, 2012, 03:16:09 PM »

The American capitalist model may have been worthy at one time, but sadly, since the Reagan era, it has been corrupted by rapacious, sociopathic doppelgangers only too willing to sacrifice the lives of hundreds of millions of Americans to further enrich themselves. 

But I guess that's what happens when you elect B grade actors, adulterous perjurers and coke snorting drunks to the highest office in the land.


Mark,

YOUR characterizations of President Reagan, President Clinton and President Bush, three terrific Presidents who served their country in the manner in which the American electorate voted them into office,  as a "B grade actor, an adulterous perjurer and a coke snorting drunk" is despicable and indicative of the vile contempt you have for America.

The American people supported, reaffirmed and expressed their confidence and trust in these three men by re-electing them to a second term.

You should aspire to serve your country with one one thousandth of the substance  that these men did.

And never forget, that if it wasn't for America you'd be speaking Japanese.

VKmetz,

I spoke to TEPaul for over an hour just prior to your conversation, and we discussed your personal attacks and radical views regarding what you consider equality.  I wonder if you make those views known to the successful men and women you caddy for at Winged Foot, prior to teeing off, or during the round.

While TEPaul and I have had some passionate, contentious debates, and come from different backgrounds, as do many on this site, I would never initiate a thread personally attacking the environment one was born into, nor the world they were brought up in.  To a fault, TEPaul tends to apologize for his legacy.

Yours is the ugly politics of envy and a selfish sense of entitlement

The America

Bill Brightly

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Re: Is it even worth it?
« Reply #101 on: April 22, 2012, 03:47:00 PM »
Mark,

Just one question: if the Chinese army were to invade Australia to take your natural resources rather than buy them, would you be in favor of US military assistance?


Mark_F

Re: Is it even worth it?
« Reply #102 on: April 22, 2012, 05:18:09 PM »
Mark Ferguson,

Your inference convinces me that you're too dumb and ignorant to understand any explanation I might offer.

I made no inferences Patrick.

It's interesting that sales of salsa passed ketchup years ago.   

Bill,

It's interesting the facts you discover on these fine GCA threads. :)  I would rather have nachos or a burrito than a hot dog or meat pie any day, but  not over a decent burger.

Then why do millions of immigrants, legal and illegal stream to America seeking a better life?

A facile argument Patrick.  Millions of people emigrated to the UK in the last dozen or so years, despite the fact that England is almost entirely populated with fat, lager-swilling 15 year-old single mothers.  The USA, at least for the moment, is a first world country. 

Mark, you've posted your anti-American rants from foreign shores on numerous occasions, yet, history has shown that time after time, when there's a problem in the world America is called upon to fix it.

Financial assistance that results in higher taxes  and the precious lives of American men and women is the price we've paid to help solve the problems of others.

America has waded into far more situations where it wasn't wanted in order to impose its view on the world - that has cost far more American lives and money than countries asking for help. 

You've been, are and continue to be an envious, mean spirited anti-American scum bag.
Others who don't know your anti-American history should be made aware of it.

Envious?  I live in the best country in the world, I have nothing to be envious of.  I am not mean spirited, I am not anti-American, and I suppose being called a scumbag is at least a step up from being called a retard.

The American people supported, reaffirmed and expressed their confidence and trust in these three men by re-electing them to a second term.

Which only goes to show the stupidity and selfishness of the American electorate.  And when your opponents are the likes of John Kerry, there isn't much choice.

YOUR characterizations of President Reagan, President Clinton and President Bush, three terrific Presidents who served their country in the manner in which the American electorate voted them into office,  as a "B grade actor, an adulterous perjurer and a coke snorting drunk" is despicable and indicative of the vile contempt you have for America.

If those three are your idea of terrific leaders, then it is you that has vile contempt for America, not me.  Reagan set the USA on its current path to oblivion.  The USA, the greatest capitalist society on earth, now the world's biggest debtor, reduced to handing around the begging bowl every year because it can't live within its means.

Bush was a joke, a part-time President, a bumbling moron who must be the only person in the USA besides you who believes in supply-side economics.  Clinton did some good, but repealing the Glass-Steagal act was the icing on Reagan's cake that led to the current destruction of the USA and millions of lives.

And never forget, that if it wasn't for America you'd be speaking Japanese.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  Yeah, right. 

Mark,

Just one question: if the Chinese army were to invade Australia to take your natural resources rather than buy them, would you be in favor of US military assistance? 

Bill,

Perhaps you could tell me how the Chinese army could get to Australia without us noticing them?

And no, I wouldn't be in favour of US military assistance.  The US military tend to shoot more of their own people than enemy combatants. 







Tony_Muldoon

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Re: Is it even worth it?
« Reply #103 on: April 22, 2012, 05:44:27 PM »
Mike thank you for your reply, my information is from The Spirit Level.  Perhaps I could have been clearer but it only compares developed economies, i.e. the relevant ones.  I can't understand how the wiki link shows anything about which economies are becoming more and less equal. 





Your conclusion includes

Tom Paul and his ancestry was the topic of this thread, and I have tried to show that there has been an evolution of discrimination in society over the years of many ethnic and minority  groups including Catholics, Italians, Irish, Jews, Blacks, Hispanics and now Muslims.


Did no one else baulk at the reference to the (from memory)  "little Jewish Man" or the misquoting of his name? Yes he had a different birth name, but by his own choice and from before he started his career in fashion, his name is Ralph Lauren.  Have things really changed that much? This is obviously a rhetorical question and I suspect this thread has done more to bring out the underlying positions of the posters on this board than most.
Let's make GCA grate again!

Matthew Sander

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Re: Is it even worth it?
« Reply #104 on: April 22, 2012, 05:51:21 PM »


The US military tend to shoot more of their own people than enemy combatants. 



I typically avoid these threads like the plague. However, I do not recall a more vile statement written on this board. If you're intention was to get a rise out of an online pacifist, then mission accomplished. 

Mark Pearce

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Re: Is it even worth it?
« Reply #105 on: April 22, 2012, 05:51:36 PM »
The odd thing about this thread is that the only person  who has come out well from it is Tom Paul.  And that is despite the "support" he has suffered.
In June I will be riding the first three stages of this year's Tour de France route for charity.  630km (394 miles) in three days, with 7800m (25,600 feet) of climbing for the William Wates Memorial Trust (https://rideleloop.org/the-charity/) which supports underprivileged young people.

V. Kmetz

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Re: Is it even worth it?
« Reply #106 on: April 22, 2012, 06:00:47 PM »
PM,

1. I maintain that everything that becomes a cultural  standard was once a radical idea; so if my "ideas" about equality are indeed radical by any objective standard, so be it.

2. If you read earlier posts, you may remember I have addressed this.  I am not there to give my opinions on this or any non-Golf matter; I am there to perform a service, which basically consists of giving them a good day. If, as many times they have been, my opinions are solicited, I will give them freely.  Sure I have had to grit my teeth; I have had to witness countless jock-sniffer stories of gambling and debauching and wasteful living, the price of which would alleviate the suffering of hundreds.  I try to hear and to learn and to formulate my own ideas about what I will do when fortune and enterprise might turn my way.  I write, here and in other venues.  But more microcosmically, the scores of wealthy men and women which I can number as friends through this service often have permitted me enough of a relationship to be able to needle them in an oblique manner:  EX: CEO of Large Ins Company talks with fatigue about he was just off the plane from Zurich earlier that day...I say "Geez Mike that must have been a bitch in coach." Like Lear's Fool, from time to time everyone, even the king, needs a haircut.  The best of them give as good as they get and used to make light of my 1995 Crown Victoria and other impoverished factums.  Last note on this:  not every member of every private GC, even WF is "successful;" that you assume the standard of success MUST exist for them to be there, indicates your eyes are filled with envy of a sort too.

3. I've answered just about every inquiry and insinuation you've made; even as they have abated in scope - your conclusions don't change a bit.  Everything, for you, it seems is through this prism of "It's mine."  Even it could be proved--and it can't--that taking one half of the wealthiest .05% holdings and nakedly re-distrubting it would make a world of rainbows--you still don't like the VERY IDEA of it.

4.  Oh your principles of grace and etiquette won't permit you to START a thread of attack, but allow you to ENGAGE in one?  You say I cannot attack a man's life/position/expressed view but then attack me and mine - you insinuated I was a tax cheat, remember - but it's different becuase the attack is against my "politics" not me?

For BB,

Just one question: If the US army were to invade Iraq to take your oil rather than buy it, would you be in favor of Chinese military assistance?  (and some follow-ups...)Yeah, what happened to the 75% of Iraqi oil not sabotaged, burned, or dysfuncted from normal production?  Who got that money...where is it...and why did oil speculation ramp to $147/brl, abate to below $70, and ramp again to the current $105 level?  Jeesh, isn't the US on the case?  And one more, why was it $35.00 only 10 years ago...IN THE WAKE of 9/11.

cheers

vk
"The tee shot must first be hit straight and long between a vast bunker on the left which whispers 'slice' in the player's ear, and a wilderness on the right which induces a hurried hook." -

Mike Sweeney

Re: Is it even worth it?
« Reply #107 on: April 22, 2012, 07:12:58 PM »

3. I've answered just about every inquiry and insinuation you've made; even as they have abated in scope - your conclusions don't change a bit.  Everything, for you, it seems is through this prism of "It's mine."  Even it could be proved--and it can't--that taking one half of the wealthiest .05% holdings and nakedly re-distrubting it would make a world of rainbows--you still don't like the VERY IDEA of it.


I personally don't believe this would be an effective re-distribution of that money. The Rockefeller Foundation, The Ford Foundation, The Gates Foundation and many others have a long history of working with and finding solutions to many of societies bigger issues. I personally believe they are more responsive because they have the ability to work and respond to a small board rather that a government bureaucracy. Here's why.

We participate in the Simons Simplex Collection which was funded by Jim Simons the hedge fund manager who is one of the top 2-3 wealthiest HF managers of all time. He has a daughter with Autism, and he has funded this foundation and a number of others:

http://sfari.org/sfari-initiatives/simons-simplex-collection

Simons is a PhD from MIT and he is basically trying to build a statistical model around the DNA samples and histories of 2600 families and try to understand the issues around Autism at its DNA level. Now Autism has had huge controversies over vaccines, and the pharmaceutical industry has often been accused of manipulating results of a variety of Autism studies that were performed by the government.

Simons has no such restrictions. He is a rich guy with the mind of a computer and he can simply eliminate the politics because he is writing the check.

Where some people see billionaire guys taking from society (of course there are some), I see innovators that are trying to solve big societal issues. Sure it would help my son's life immediately if Jim Simons put a million dollars into his school or after-school program, but he is trying to solve the Autism problem at its core DNA level. With Autism numbers climbing, according to the CDC (1 in 88 now, http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/addm.html), I know intellectually that Jim Simons is doing the right thing for society. In the meantime, my wife's fundraiser for our son's after-school program continues:

http://www.firstgiving.com/fundraiser/katie-sweeney-1/friendraiser

Terry Lavin

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Re: Is it even worth it?
« Reply #108 on: April 22, 2012, 07:13:37 PM »
Bloviators all.  Not one of the gasbags on either side of this piffle would last an hour on a site like The American Thinker, where this sort of C- in political philosophy reigns supreme. But keep on keeping on. Please.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2012, 07:16:39 PM by Terry Lavin »
Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people.  H.L. Mencken

Patrick_Mucci

Re: Is it even worth it?
« Reply #109 on: April 22, 2012, 08:08:58 PM »
PM,

1. I maintain that everything that becomes a cultural  standard was once a radical idea; so if my "ideas" about equality are indeed radical by any objective standard, so be it.

Those are only the "positive" or mild radical ideas, NOT the destructive ones.
For you to posture that your ideas are going to become the cultural standard is arrogance. i


2. If you read earlier posts, you may remember I have addressed this.  I am not there to give my opinions on this or any non-Golf matter; I am there to perform a service, which basically consists of giving them a good day. If, as many times they have been, my opinions are solicited, I will give them freely.  Sure I have had to grit my teeth; I have had to witness countless jock-sniffer stories of gambling and debauching and wasteful living, the price of which would alleviate the suffering of hundreds.  

It is not for you to decide how to spend other peoples money, that's the ultimate tyranny.


I try to hear and to learn and to formulate my own ideas about what I will do when fortune and enterprise might turn my way.  I write, here and in other venues.  But more microcosmically, the scores of wealthy men and women which I can number as friends through this service often have permitted me enough of a relationship to be able to needle them in an oblique manner:  EX: CEO of Large Ins Company talks with fatigue about he was just off the plane from Zurich earlier that day...I say "Geez Mike that must have been a bitch in coach." Like Lear's Fool, from time to time everyone, even the king, needs a haircut.  The best of them give as good as they get and used to make light of my 1995 Crown Victoria and other impoverished factums.  Last note on this:  not every member of every private GC, even WF is "successful;" that you assume the standard of success MUST exist for them to be there, indicates your eyes are filled with envy of a sort too.

Not in the least.
Being a dues paying member of a private club is a luxury and indicative of disposable income, ergo, they've achieved a measure of success.
How much is relative.


3. I've answered just about every inquiry and insinuation you've made; even as they have abated in scope - your conclusions don't change a bit.  Everything, for you, it seems is through this prism of "It's mine."  

Everything I've earned through my efforts is mine, and I've paid taxes on everything I've earned through my efforts.
Hence, what's left over after taxes is MINE, not yours to dole out as you please.
Why shouldn't it be mine, I worked for and earned it ?


Even it could be proved--and it can't--that taking one half of the wealthiest .05% holdings and nakedly re-distrubting it would make a world of rainbows--you still don't like the VERY IDEA of it.

So you want to take half of everything those people have, even after they've paid taxes on their earnings.
You want to impose a wealth tax, not having a clue on what that would do to our economy.
Tell me, if a man owns a business that's worth 100,000,000 and employs 5,000 people, how are you going to collect that tax ?
Make him sell or liquidate that business.
Make him put 5,000 people out of work.

Do You think that wealth sits in a checking account ?

Wealth takes many forms, buildings, businesses, partnerships, etc., etc..
How would you convert it to cash ?
Or, is the next step you endorse, for the government to confiscate one half of the ownership of those assets.
And, if the government can take one half, they can subsequently take 75 %, then 100 %.

Yours is the most dangerous of politics.
You would steal what others have worked hard for and distribute it according to your whims.



4.  Oh your principles of grace and etiquette won't permit you to START a thread of attack, but allow you to ENGAGE in one?  

I prefer to categorize my response as a "DEFENSE" to your radical, selfish, lunatic rant.


You say I cannot attack a man's life/position/expressed view but then attack me and mine - you insinuated I was a tax cheat, remember - but it's different becuase the attack is against my "politics" not me?

You categorized and accused successful hard working people who achieved measures of success of having done so through criminal activity, cheating or "schemes", as if you're "pure".  Well, I don't buy that you're "pure" and I don't buy that you report every penny, despite your claim.


For BB,

Just one question: If the US army were to invade Iraq to take your oil rather than buy it, would you be in favor of Chinese military assistance?  (and some follow-ups...)Yeah, what happened to the 75% of Iraqi oil not sabotaged, burned, or dysfuncted from normal production?  Who got that money...where is it...and why did oil speculation ramp to $147/brl, abate to below $70, and ramp again to the current $105 level?  Jeesh, isn't the US on the case?  And one more, why was it $35.00 only 10 years ago...IN THE WAKE of 9/11.

Your hypothetical is absurd and illustrates how you'll deliberately skew the circumstances to fit your predetermined conclusion.


« Last Edit: April 22, 2012, 08:11:10 PM by Patrick_Mucci »

Mike_Young

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Re: Is it even worth it?
« Reply #110 on: April 22, 2012, 08:40:12 PM »
I don't know how you respond to this type of thread.  But I did decide I should send it to a friend who is a teaching pro at Winged Foot and hope he could ask the head pro to read it and then introduce him to this guy.  I doubt VKMetz is his name.    It's the least I could do. ;)
"just standing on a corner in Winslow Arizona"

JR Potts

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Re: Is it even worth it?
« Reply #111 on: April 22, 2012, 08:53:05 PM »
I don't know how you respond to this type of thread.  But I did decide I should send it to a friend who is a teaching pro at Winged Foot and hope he could ask the head pro to read it and then introduce him to this guy.  I doubt VKMetz is his name.    It's the least I could do. ;)

This may be the best post on the thread...although I really have enjoyed Mucci's posts.

Just as I can't fathom people living in a country who detest its inhabitants when there are so many other living options, I can't fathom a club wanting someone who shares the views of V. Kmetz interacting with its members.

Extremism takes many different forms...it just seems to be more readily accepted when it's coming from the left.  However, it's equally reprehensible as the extremism that veers from the right.

Taking this full circle...I really enjoyed TE Paul's interview...the thngs his family accomplished were what most in our country used to strive for ...and we were better off for it IMO.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2012, 09:17:02 PM by JR Potts »

Michael George

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Re: Is it even worth it?
« Reply #112 on: April 22, 2012, 09:07:02 PM »
I don't know how you respond to this type of thread.  But I did decide I should send it to a friend who is a teaching pro at Winged Foot and hope he could ask the head pro to read it and then introduce him to this guy.  I doubt VKMetz is his name.    It's the least I could do. ;)

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« Last Edit: April 23, 2012, 08:33:54 AM by Michael George »
"First come my wife and children.  Next comes my profession--the law. Finally, and never as a life in itself, comes golf" - Bob Jones

Mike_Young

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Re: Is it even worth it?
« Reply #113 on: April 22, 2012, 09:14:35 PM »
I don't know how you respond to this type of thread.  But I did decide I should send it to a friend who is a teaching pro at Winged Foot and hope he could ask the head pro to read it and then introduce him to this guy.  I doubt VKMetz is his name.    It's the least I could do. ;)

That is really funny Mike.  Great post.

As my father used to tell me, you can say or do anything you want, but you have to live with the consequences.

Michael,
I was serious....have already done it...those types of punks offend me and I don't care to be politically correct in dealing with them.  Cheers
"just standing on a corner in Winslow Arizona"

Randy Thompson

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Re: Is it even worth it?
« Reply #114 on: April 22, 2012, 10:24:59 PM »
Pat,

I'm with you.  Now we just need to stop throwing money at being the world's policeman:

http://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/budgetary-savings-military-restraint


Thats a catch 22 situation, the US economy is so dependent on military spending it would bust without it!  So I don´t look for them to stop playing world policemen anytime soon!

Garland Bayley

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Re: Is it even worth it?
« Reply #115 on: April 23, 2012, 12:15:28 AM »


To BB:    For the moment, I'll try and BE the change I want to see.


vk

From what I have read, you want to "BE" a small, hateful person. In my experience, such individuals are incapable of effecting positive changes. Good luck in your endeavors.

I guess I don't get why people say someone with a different opinion on things is "hateful". I think that if V. and Tom were to get together, they might get along famously well. Why aren't people calling Patrick "hateful"? His opinions are loud and forceful.
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Tony_Muldoon

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Re: Is it even worth it?
« Reply #116 on: April 23, 2012, 12:29:06 AM »
I don't know how you respond to this type of thread.  But I did decide I should send it to a friend who is a teaching pro at Winged Foot and hope he could ask the head pro to read it and then introduce him to this guy.  I doubt VKMetz is his name.    It's the least I could do. ;)


This is the most worrying thing I’ve ever seen on here.  A man expresses opinions you don’t like and you seek to have him sacked?  This has nothing to do with PC responses and everything to do with denial of free speech.  The theme of this thread is supposed to be about how society has changed and yet your appalling action is not decried.  Ask yourself what is it he’s saying that so frightens you into taking such an anti democratic action. This thread needs to die.

Churchill used the following phrase to sum up the liberty under which we enjoy life.
“I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to death your right to say it? “

Why do you (and others) seek to subvert that?



I'm taking a break from GCA.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2012, 12:33:30 AM by Tony_Muldoon »
Let's make GCA grate again!

Garland Bayley

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Re: Is it even worth it?
« Reply #117 on: April 23, 2012, 01:13:17 AM »
I don't know how you respond to this type of thread.  But I did decide I should send it to a friend who is a teaching pro at Winged Foot and hope he could ask the head pro to read it and then introduce him to this guy.  I doubt VKMetz is his name.    It's the least I could do. ;)

That is really funny Mike.  Great post.

As my father used to tell me, you can say or do anything you want, but you have to live with the consequences.

Michael,
I was serious....have already done it...those types of punks offend me and I don't care to be politically correct in dealing with them.  Cheers

Ah, now I see some hateful behavior. I guess I just missed it in Vinnie's post.
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

V. Kmetz

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Re: Is it even worth it?
« Reply #118 on: April 23, 2012, 02:39:57 AM »
GB, TM, All,

Thank you fellas for championing the right to express opinions...on a discussion board. As the thread reveals, TP and I have already shared two brief phone conversations and are haltingly optimistic for what can come out of a further discussion.

Mike Young's post is like a man chasing a fly down a Par 5 for landing on a Cobb salad...two tables over.

The thing that is REALLY worrying is that Mike Young may have endangered his friend's (who may possibly be a friend of mine) position moreso than my own.  The maxim of "living with the consequences" may have to be delivered to him, not me.

But even if everything in his "stooge's" fantasy came true; I showed you my tax returns...you can see how little it matters.

Thanks to many of you who have sent me private messages; I will try and respond in due course.

cheers

vk
"The tee shot must first be hit straight and long between a vast bunker on the left which whispers 'slice' in the player's ear, and a wilderness on the right which induces a hurried hook." -

Sean_A

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Re: Is it even worth it?
« Reply #119 on: April 23, 2012, 03:55:46 AM »
I don't know how you respond to this type of thread.  But I did decide I should send it to a friend who is a teaching pro at Winged Foot and hope he could ask the head pro to read it and then introduce him to this guy.  I doubt VKMetz is his name.    It's the least I could do. ;)

That is really funny Mike.  Great post.

As my father used to tell me, you can say or do anything you want, but you have to live with the consequences.

Michael,
I was serious....have already done it...those types of punks offend me and I don't care to be politically correct in dealing with them.  Cheers

Hopefully the head pro will demonstrate better judgement than you have.  Why on earth would you want to turn an internet conversation of all things into matter which could get a man fired?  Why do you need go on the offensive when this matter has nothing to do with you?

You are usually an easy going guy - what gives?

Ciao
« Last Edit: April 23, 2012, 04:11:22 AM by Sean Arble »
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Mark Pearce

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Re: Is it even worth it?
« Reply #120 on: April 23, 2012, 03:59:51 AM »
I don't know how you respond to this type of thread.  But I did decide I should send it to a friend who is a teaching pro at Winged Foot and hope he could ask the head pro to read it and then introduce him to this guy.  I doubt VKMetz is his name.    It's the least I could do. ;)
I completely agree with Tony Muldoon.  Possibly the most offensive, despicable post I have seen on this site.  You are a coward and have betrayed the principle of free speach which your country holds so dear.  Contemptible.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2012, 07:18:08 AM by Mark Pearce »
In June I will be riding the first three stages of this year's Tour de France route for charity.  630km (394 miles) in three days, with 7800m (25,600 feet) of climbing for the William Wates Memorial Trust (https://rideleloop.org/the-charity/) which supports underprivileged young people.

Dan Herrmann

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Re: Is it even worth it?
« Reply #121 on: April 23, 2012, 06:59:59 AM »
VK,
Let's try to get this back to the gist of your original post (which you have every right to write)....

How do you think golf course architecture would have been different without the culture you referenced?

I really hope you respond, because I think we may be onto a very interesting discussion.

Melvyn Morrow

Re: Is it even worth it?
« Reply #122 on: April 23, 2012, 07:29:39 AM »

I know it’s meant to be all about golf, GCA, but this brave thread by V Kmetz has shown that sheep do indeed roam, not just the golf courses but the golf web sites too.

I do not hold with many of the views held and voiced by V Kmetz, but I do admire the guy for his guts to voice them. This site should be congratulating him for his courage, for taking the bull by the horns and saying what he believes.

Mark Pearce is totally wrong to say that Tom Paul is the only one to come out of this well, so does V Kmetz. Even Ran and Tom have encouraged the thread to develop, but the three Monkeys of GCA.com (Hear, See & Speak [oh yer] not Evil) seem to resemble the scene from ‘The Graduate’ just after the wedding http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JTH5VPAT4Y&feature=related

PS Thanks Dan, good question.

Mike Sweeney

Re: Is it even worth it?
« Reply #123 on: April 23, 2012, 07:38:23 AM »

I know it’s meant to be all about golf, GCA, but this brave thread by V Kmetz has shown that sheep do indeed roam, not just the golf courses but the golf web sites too.

I do not hold with many of the views held and voiced by V Kmetz, but I do admire the guy for his guts to voice them. This site should be congratulating him for his courage, for taking the bull by the horns and saying what he believes.

Mark Pearce is totally wrong to say that Tom Paul is the only one to come out of this well, so does V Kmetz. Even Ran and Tom have encouraged the thread to develop, but the three Monkeys of GCA.com (Hear, See & Speak [oh yer] not Evil) seem to resemble the scene from ‘The Graduate’ just after the wedding http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JTH5VPAT4Y&feature=related

PS Thanks Dan, good question.

Melvyn,

I have on a number of occasions accused you of being a fake poster. Kmetz and Tom Paul spoke up on the phone to clear up their issues. I continue to offer the same. Please send me your phone number by IM, and I will call you later today.

Melvyn Morrow

Re: Is it even worth it?
« Reply #124 on: April 23, 2012, 07:59:21 AM »

Mike

You offer me no reason to talk to you. I have no interest in talking to you.  I have no issues with you. You may have issues but then that's your problem not mine.

I hope you resolve those issues that seem to concern you and soon, but please rest assured you do not cause me any restful nights worrying.

I wish you well and no my phone number will not be forthcoming. If we ever meet and you are civil I would be pleased to buy you a drink and have a friendly chat

Melvyn