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Dean DiBerardino

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Garden City GC 1936 US Amateur Images from Life Magazine!
« on: April 14, 2012, 04:13:12 PM »
The numbers above the images are there for reference in case anyone wants to discuss or identify any of them....

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David_Tepper

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Re: Garden City GC 1396 US Amateur Images from Life Magazine!
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2012, 04:35:45 PM »
Isn't that Pat Mucci sitting on the green? ;)

Jon Wiggett

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Re: Garden City GC 1396 US Amateur Images from Life Magazine!
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2012, 05:16:38 PM »
Excellent photos Dean.

It looks like some interesting movement in the green on several of the photos.

It is amazing that they were playing golf in the US even before Columbus arrived there ;D

Jon

Dean DiBerardino

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Re: Garden City GC 1396 US Amateur Images from Life Magazine!
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2012, 05:20:43 PM »
Excellent photos Dean.

It looks like some interesting movement in the green on several of the photos.

It is amazing that they were playing golf in the US even before Columbus arrived there ;D

Jon

Thanks Jon!  ;)

DMoriarty

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Re: Garden City GC 1396 US Amateur Images from Life Magazine!
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2012, 06:10:48 PM »
Excellent photos Dean.

It looks like some interesting movement in the green on several of the photos.

It is amazing that they were playing golf in the US even before Columbus arrived there ;D

Jon

I thought '1396' was reference to the number of photos. That'd have been a lot to develop pre-digital.  

I agree the rolls in the greens look pretty impressive.  In my brief time there I don't recall that many rolls.  Who would have been the architect most likely responsible at that point in time?  

Golf history can be quite interesting if you just let your favorite legends go and allow the truth to take you where it will.
--Tom MacWood (1958-2012)

JLahrman

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Re: Garden City GC 1936 US Amateur Images from Life Magazine!
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2012, 06:18:27 PM »
The 1936 US Amateur was won by Cincinnati native John Fischer.

It was the last major tournament won by a player using wooden shafts.

Bradley Anderson

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Re: Garden City GC 1936 US Amateur Images from Life Magazine!
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2012, 08:53:27 PM »
These are some incredible photos. 

Tim Martin

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Re: Garden City GC 1936 US Amateur Images from Life Magazine!
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2012, 09:07:54 PM »
These are some incredible photos. 

Man are those great. Thanks Dean. I love the stairs in the bunker in photo # 12.

jeffwarne

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Re: Garden City GC 1936 US Amateur Images from Life Magazine!
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2012, 09:25:12 PM »
These are some incredible photos. 

Man are those great. Thanks Dean. I love the stairs in the bunker in photo # 12.

Great photos.

Those pictures illustrate to me why grass never needs to be cut any shorter or tighter than it appears in the photos.
Incredible undulation making fast fast, and slow slow, thus separating the skilled from the not so skilled around the greens, and encouraging the proper angle of approach with those steep slopes on and around the greens.
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

Patrick_Mucci

Re: Garden City GC 1936 US Amateur Images from Life Magazine!
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2012, 10:10:06 PM »
Dean,

Fabulous photos.

# 16 & # 17 are interesting for a few reasons.

The golfers are dressed like golfers in the 50's and that full, beyond parallel, backswing in # 17 was surprising to see.

I'm trying to identify all of the holes.

Agree that the contours in the greens are terrific.

I also like the more dramatic, penal bunkers and bunker fields, like the one's on the first hole that have been lost over the years to grass and vegetation.

GCGC would be well served restoring the course, circa 1936, especially with the abundance of photographic evidence at their disposal.

JLahrman

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Re: Garden City GC 1936 US Amateur Images from Life Magazine!
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2012, 10:16:43 PM »
The golfers are dressed like golfers in the 50's and that full, beyond parallel, backswing in # 17 was surprising to see.

He's also wearing a great pair of shoes.

Kevin_Reilly

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Re: Garden City GC 1936 US Amateur Images from Life Magazine!
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2012, 11:44:49 PM »
Pat, was one of these ladies a prom date of yours?

"GOLF COURSES SHOULD BE ENJOYED RATHER THAN RATED" - Tom Watson

Patrick_Mucci

Re: Garden City GC 1936 US Amateur Images from Life Magazine!
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2012, 12:06:36 AM »
Kevin,

Actually, all three were.

It was a night to remember, if I could only remember.

Dean DiBerardino

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Re: Garden City GC 1936 US Amateur Images from Life Magazine!
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2012, 09:04:40 AM »
The 1936 US Amateur was won by Cincinnati native John Fischer.

It was the last major tournament won by a player using wooden shafts.

Mr. Fischer with the Havemeyer Trophy....

Dean DiBerardino

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Re: Garden City GC 1936 US Amateur Images from Life Magazine!
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2012, 09:12:44 AM »
The Emperor was in attendance as well.  8)


and taking photos of  ???
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Josh Smith

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Re: Garden City GC 1936 US Amateur Images from Life Magazine!
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2012, 10:08:17 AM »
Great photos Dean.  Thanks.  Love the balance they had there of bold architecture and just enough maintenance. 

Tom MacWood

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Re: Garden City GC 1936 US Amateur Images from Life Magazine!
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2012, 10:24:23 AM »
Those are fantastic pictures.

Pat
Is that first photo of the old 12th green?

Jay Flemma

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Re: Garden City GC 1936 US Amateur Images from Life Magazine!
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2012, 11:47:20 AM »
Fantastic find.
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Bill_McBride

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Re: Garden City GC 1936 US Amateur Images from Life Magazine!
« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2012, 11:53:54 AM »
Are the bunkers as deep and gnarly today as they were in 1936?   Too bad if they aren't, those look great.

JLahrman

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Re: Garden City GC 1936 US Amateur Images from Life Magazine!
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2012, 12:14:42 PM »
Some additional detail about the final match, as well as Mr. Fischer's route to the championship:

http://champsdatabase.usga.org/results_winner.asp?ID=349

Bradley Anderson

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Re: Garden City GC 1936 US Amateur Images from Life Magazine!
« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2012, 01:58:39 PM »
I wonder if photo 1 is of 12 green? I don't recall any buildings though near the 12th hole.

If photo 1 is not of the 12th green, and this seems most likely, then obviously the collar cut mounding feature was used on at least one other hole, and possibly more. The significance of that being that the 12th hole mounding was not unique exclusively to that hole.

I notice also that the collar cut mounding in photo 1 is really healthy.

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Patrick_Mucci

Re: Garden City GC 1936 US Amateur Images from Life Magazine!
« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2012, 08:06:19 PM »
Tom MacWood,

I don't believe photo # 1 is that of the 12th hole.

That huge house, it elevation and its distance from the green don't  seem to fit

Bill,

The bunkers are deep

Photo # 7 and # 12 may be of the first green.

Notice how the green is mowed, almost into the bunker.

If they could maintain the greens like that in 1936, courses should be able to maintain them like that today.
It makes hole locations near the perimeters that much more challenging, requiring good to great tactics

Bill_McBride

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Re: Garden City GC 1936 US Amateur Images from Life Magazine!
« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2012, 08:53:33 PM »
Pat, those photos 7 and 12 are wonderful.  I'm guessing that transition no longer exists.   Photos I've seen of Metropolitan Golf Club in Australia have that same, with no rough in between.   Green > bunker.   Beautiful.   Are those steps there?

Patrick_Mucci

Re: Garden City GC 1936 US Amateur Images from Life Magazine!
« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2012, 09:46:53 PM »
Pat, those photos 7 and 12 are wonderful.  I'm guessing that transition no longer exists.   Photos I've seen of Metropolitan Golf Club in Australia have that same, with no rough in between.   Green > bunker.   Beautiful.   Are those steps there?

Bill,

Pretty much all of GCGC's steep bunkers have steps leading in and out of them.

Today, without spikes, without steps, your caddy would have to throw you a rope ladder to get out of them.


Bill_McBride

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Re: Garden City GC 1936 US Amateur Images from Life Magazine!
« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2012, 11:16:02 PM »
Pat, those photos 7 and 12 are wonderful.  I'm guessing that transition no longer exists.   Photos I've seen of Metropolitan Golf Club in Australia have that same, with no rough in between.   Green > bunker.   Beautiful.   Are those steps there?

Bill,

Pretty much all of GCGC's steep bunkers have steps leading in and out of them.

Today, without spikes, without steps, your caddy would have to throw you a rope ladder to get out of them.


I guess to get up that way, sounds great!

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