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Jay Flemma

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Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #75 on: March 28, 2012, 02:48:13 PM »
Mel, with great respect, I have to go along with the rest of the guys on this one.  My heart goes out to AG for what he's had to endure.  No anguish is worse for a parent than the suffering of a child (except, god forbid, their loss).

I thought it was doubly poignant what Ag had to say:

1:  Music helps us get through times of sadness; and

2:  Sometimes when we think we are so much better than someone else because we are following some "social rule or standard," what we're actually doing is dismissing them as unworthy of any time or consideration out of some prejudice, and condemning them without knowing their mind.
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Mike Hendren

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Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #76 on: March 28, 2012, 03:52:21 PM »
I'm a big believer in live and let live.  That said, I would not welcome a playing partner listening to music without ear-plugs.  I'd be even more offended if he put me on the spot by asking if I minded.  The best things in life are indeed free and peace and quiet are two gifts that I've come to value highly in the last few years. 

Mike
Two Corinthians walk into a bar ....

Michael Wharton-Palmer

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Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #77 on: March 28, 2012, 04:04:26 PM »
I played at Kingsley last year and they had music playing on the range.
At first I thought man..that is out of wack, but actually enjoyed it by the end of the week.
I am rather a traditionalsit though at heart, and dont think the two mix, out there on your own why not!!
I can certainly see the pleasure of mixing ones passions at the same time, some nice Jazz or Funk whilst walking the course late in the evening, heck I am going to try it!
At least then I wont here myself cuss :-[

A.G._Crockett

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Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #78 on: March 28, 2012, 04:39:09 PM »
I'm a big believer in live and let live.  That said, I would not welcome a playing partner listening to music without ear-plugs.  I'd be even more offended if he put me on the spot by asking if I minded.  The best things in life are indeed free and peace and quiet are two gifts that I've come to value highly in the last few years. 

Mike

Agreed, 100%.  I would also never wear ear buds when playing with someone; I even take them out for a few minutes when I'm playing alone and play through a group.
"Golf...is usually played with the outward appearance of great dignity.  It is, nevertheless, a game of considerable passion, either of the explosive type, or that which burns inwardly and sears the soul."      Bobby Jones

A.G._Crockett

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Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #79 on: March 28, 2012, 04:42:48 PM »
I played at Kingsley last year and they had music playing on the range.
At first I thought man..that is out of wack, but actually enjoyed it by the end of the week.
I am rather a traditionalsit though at heart, and dont think the two mix, out there on your own why not!!
I can certainly see the pleasure of mixing ones passions at the same time, some nice Jazz or Funk whilst walking the course late in the evening, heck I am going to try it!
At least then I wont here myself cuss :-[

At Greyhawk in Scottsdale, there are speakers disguised as rocks that play classic rock (softly).  Seems like it would be weird, but it works.  And listening to a little of The Who or the Stones is just a great way to play golf; somehow creates a confident state of mind.
"Golf...is usually played with the outward appearance of great dignity.  It is, nevertheless, a game of considerable passion, either of the explosive type, or that which burns inwardly and sears the soul."      Bobby Jones

Sam Morrow

Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #80 on: March 28, 2012, 07:18:21 PM »
Now that I think about it they play music on the range at Whispering Pines, it seems like it's usually The Black Eyed Peas.

Greg Tallman

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Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #81 on: March 28, 2012, 07:27:55 PM »
Isn't part of the spirit of the game enjoying nature and all that entails? Doesn't music, whether on the practice range or on your Ipod, interfere with that?

Kalen Braley

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Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #82 on: March 28, 2012, 08:08:12 PM »
Music isn't all bad!!!

I wish they played this on my local course every time I stepped up to the tee...  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imamcajBEJs

A.G._Crockett

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Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #83 on: March 28, 2012, 08:47:30 PM »
Isn't part of the spirit of the game enjoying nature and all that entails? Doesn't music, whether on the practice range or on your Ipod, interfere with that?

Greg,
To turn that around, can't good music enhance our appreciation of our surroundings?  If not, I don't think we'd be so fond of it. 

For some reason, we are hard-wired to enjoy music; appreciating beauty in one form could make us MORE aware of other forms of beauty, couldn't it?  Good wine compliments the food served with it; it doesn't interfere with the food.
"Golf...is usually played with the outward appearance of great dignity.  It is, nevertheless, a game of considerable passion, either of the explosive type, or that which burns inwardly and sears the soul."      Bobby Jones

Mike Sweeney

Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #84 on: March 28, 2012, 09:41:17 PM »
Last March, my 22 yr. old daughter was diagnosed with cancer.  She is a beautiful young woman who had graduated from college and moved to NYC and was working in publishing on Madison Ave. in a true dream job, and she has been the light of my life since the day she was born.  She has been battling for her life ever since, and the battle continues.

My wife and I flew out of Atlanta on the March 10th of last year, and my wife has been with our daughter continuously since, first in NYC and since August at Duke University Medical Center, where our daughter will undergo her second bone marrow transplant in exactly two weeks.  I, meanwhile, have commuted as often as humanly possible, and lived alone otherwise.

I have spent, over the last year, untold hours walking alone at my club on late afternoons after work to avoid going home to an empty house and all that it signifies.  But I realized quickly that being alone with my thoughts was NOT productive or healthy.  Music combined with golf was my salvation.

Walking for several hours while listening to good music and hitting golf shots as well has been great, great therapy for me.  I won't over-dramatize it say that it has "saved" me; I'm not the one who is sick.  But it is healthy and good and both distracting and engaging at the same time, and just beats the hell out of being alone with the spiders that live in my brain these days.

I used to smile to myself when I saw somebody at the range or on the course with earbuds; I thought that golf should be enough, and questioned their commitment to the game.  Never again; I don't know what is going on in their life and what role golf and music play. And if the combination of the two helps them, God bless 'em.

Other than Augusta National, Royal County Down and Royal Melbourne, I have covered most of the must plays, for me at least.

Post like A.G's  is why I still come to this site. Fabulous post in so many ways.

Last Fall, I teed off at Yale with my Autistic son on a fairly cold late Saturday afternoon. As I was walking to the first tee, a 60 something year old woman sought me out to play. The course was fairly empty.

I explained to her that the "guys" let me play off times with my son as he was Autistic. She responded:

"I know, that's why I want to play with you guys."

For two hours (we just played 9 holes), I learned more from this woman than most can imagine. She had an adult Autistic brother who lived in a home in Connecticut and she explained to me the entire system and how it worked.

During that time, Dustin talked during our backswings, walked in bunkers, and yes he listened to music on his Ipod. (Scott Ramsey, Yale's Super, is a friend and he knows Dustin's late afternoon footprints.)

I played basketball at a fairly high level, and in the big picture of life, I suck at basketball. That means, I really, really suck at golf.

I have never met A.G. but I am guessing that he at least really sucks at golf.

If there is not a place in golf for A.G. to get peace from his current family issues or for my son to hang out with Dad and Matty at Yale on a late Fall afternoon, well that is simply silly.

Let's bring back Gib and Rich Goodale all day long over these other cretins who portray themselves as being the old guard of golf's traditions.

Michael George

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Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #85 on: March 28, 2012, 09:52:42 PM »
Mike:

Well said.  Your story reminds me of my brother, who has a downs son.  He takes him out late in the afternoons when the course is quite and just enjoys the round.   This is certainly special time for him, as I am sure it is for you.



"First come my wife and children.  Next comes my profession--the law. Finally, and never as a life in itself, comes golf" - Bob Jones

A.G._Crockett

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Re: Music on the Golf Course
« Reply #86 on: March 28, 2012, 10:25:00 PM »
Mike Sweeney,
Your story is a blessing to me.  Thank you for sharing, and I hope you and your son have thousands of afternoons just like the one you describe.  There is no price that could match the value.

"Golf...is usually played with the outward appearance of great dignity.  It is, nevertheless, a game of considerable passion, either of the explosive type, or that which burns inwardly and sears the soul."      Bobby Jones

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