News:

Welcome to the Golf Club Atlas Discussion Group!

Each user is approved by the Golf Club Atlas editorial staff. For any new inquiries, please contact us.


Emile Bonfiglio

  • Karma: +0/-0
What are the chances
« on: March 07, 2012, 12:08:57 AM »
What are the chances that the Minimalist trend catches on enough that someday Augusta National decides to go back to way it looked in the Jones/MacKenzie days. Im referring more to the bunkering, not the lack of lavish foliage. I could only see Crenshaw getting the nod to do this.

So your options are:
A- not likely
B- not a chance in hell
C- only when Martha Burke becomes chairman
You can follow me on twitter @luxhomemagpdx or instagram @option720

Sam Morrow

Re: What are the chances
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2012, 12:12:39 AM »
Never say never but I wouldn't bet on it.

Tom_Doak

  • Karma: +2/-1
Re: What are the chances
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2012, 07:32:25 AM »
Minimalism is not about the look of the bunkering.

jeffwarne

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: What are the chances
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2012, 07:46:55 AM »
What are the chances that the Minimalist trend catches on enough that someday Augusta National decides to go back to way it looked in the Jones/MacKenzie days. Im referring more to the bunkering, not the lack of lavish foliage. I could only see Crenshaw getting the nod to do this.

So your options are:
A- not likely
B- not a chance in hell
C- only when Martha Burke becomes chairman

Regarding the "lavish" foliage.....
prior to being ANGC, the site was a world renowned............ wait for it............
nursery,
« Last Edit: March 07, 2012, 08:02:02 AM by jeffwarne »
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

Anthony Gray

Re: What are the chances
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2012, 07:47:43 AM »


  That is not a golf course it's a museum.

  Anthony


Michael George

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: What are the chances
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2012, 08:10:04 AM »

Unfortunately, I think that ship has sailed.  Augusta's bunkering is far from its original design based on the pictures that I have seen.

Here is a quote from Robert Hunter's The Links (as we all know Hunter and Mackenzie designed together):

"The should have the appearance of being made with carelessness and abandon with which a brook tears down the banks which confine it, or the wind tosses about the sand of the dunes ... forming depressions or elevations broken into irregular lines.  Here the bank overhangs, where there it has crumbled away"

Certainly does not describe any bunker at Augusta except the one in the middle of the fairway on #10.

"First come my wife and children.  Next comes my profession--the law. Finally, and never as a life in itself, comes golf" - Bob Jones

Jeff_Brauer

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: What are the chances
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2012, 09:35:45 AM »
For the most part, isn't ANGC a pretty minimalist course in its design, if not maintenance?  Only 30 bunkers?  Defend par at the green?  I am a bit sad at the tree additions over the last five years, but even so, its still conceptually a minimalist golf course design.......
Jeff Brauer, ASGCA Director of Outreach

PCCraig

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: What are the chances
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2012, 10:16:00 AM »
"B" on the bunkers ever getting a "rougher" look.
H.P.S.

Brent Hutto

Re: What are the chances
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2012, 10:22:45 AM »
Minimalism is not about the look of the bunkering.

Although sometimes it seems that Golf Club Atlas is, alas.

Sven Nilsen

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: What are the chances
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2012, 10:41:29 AM »
The Masters has become as much a harbinger of spring time as the ground hog.  Because of this, it will always be presented as green as possible, with as many shots of flowers as they can cram in and with the birds chirping in the back ground behind the announcer's discussion of the wonder of the majesty of it all.
"As much as we have learned about the history of golf architecture in the last ten plus years, I'm convinced we have only scratched the surface."  A GCA Poster

"There's the golf hole; play it any way you please." Donald Ross

Emile Bonfiglio

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: What are the chances
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2012, 01:23:48 PM »
Minimalism is not about the look of the bunkering.

I thought it was the only place where ANGC might give, I don't see them going firm and fast in the fairways ever, even though I'm down with the brown.
You can follow me on twitter @luxhomemagpdx or instagram @option720

Greg Clark

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: What are the chances
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2012, 05:01:57 PM »
Isn't the "greeness" at Augusta more about the type of grass than the amount of water or maintenance program?  Rye grass, especially during the spring, has such a deep rich green color to it that many don't seem to take into account.  Obviously the Augusta area gets its fair share of rain during the spring and as a result the course can play soft during the tournament, but lacking those rains, the course seems to play pretty firm during The Masters.

Sean Leary

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: What are the chances
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2012, 09:41:49 PM »
Emile,

You need a different dictionary for the term minimalism, my friend;)

I think they do want it firm and fast for the Masters. Spring weather doesn't always abide.

Steve_ Shaffer

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: What are the chances
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2012, 11:17:02 PM »
If you return to the '30s,you lose RTJ's 16th hole that replaced a bland,IMO, one shoter.
"Some of us worship in churches, some in synagogues, some on golf courses ... "  Adlai Stevenson
Hyman Roth to Michael Corleone: "We're bigger than US Steel."
Ben Hogan “The most important shot in golf is the next one”

Tags:
Tags:

An Error Has Occurred!

Call to undefined function theme_linktree()
Back