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Mike Nuzzo

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"placed an emphasis on creating economically successful projects"
Is a quote from Brian Curley in Asian Golf News
http://www.asiapacificgolfgroup.com/ezine/AGB/AGB-MAR2012/AGB-MAR2012.html

Would anyone consider either Mission Hills economically successful for the client?
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Thinking of Bob, Rihc, Bill, George, Neil, Dr. Childs, & Tiger.

Tom_Doak

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Which Mission Hills do you mean?

I would assume that the first project was VERY successful, if it led the developer to put so much cash into the subsequent project on Hainan Island.

Mike Nuzzo

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Tom
Either
I can't remember the last time you used assume and if in the same sentence. :)

Economically successful aren't the words that pop into my mind when I think about Mission Hills
It would take a lot of real estate to pay for those clubhouses
Maybe Mission Hills changed the way the world views China - and the nations tourism revenues - but that would hardly be due to the architecture

Cheers
Thinking of Bob, Rihc, Bill, George, Neil, Dr. Childs, & Tiger.

George Pazin

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Did the developer use his own money, or other people's? Lots easier to spend money in the latter case...
Big drivers and hot balls are the product of golf course design that rewards the hit one far then hit one high strategy.  Shinny showed everyone how to take care of this whole technology dilemma. - Pat Brockwell, 6/24/04

Randy Thompson

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Tom
Either
I can't remember the last time you used assume and if in the same sentence.

Plus one for Mike, look forward to Tomīs response.
« Last Edit: March 01, 2012, 06:59:11 AM by Randy Thompson »

Tom_Doak

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Are you guys criticizing my grammar?

I have no actual knowledge of the finances at Mission Hills, and I don't know that either of you guys have even been to China, so don't know why you would know more about it.  I've never been to the big place in Shenzen; I only spent a couple of hours at the new one in Hainan before my last flight home.

I thought it was a reasonable assumption that no one would build a billion-dollar second project [or be loaned the money to build one] unless his previous project had been successful.

Randy Thompson

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Some developers have big bank accounts and even bigger egoīs! With my spelling, attack your grammer, never! Been to China? no never, and hopefully not ever in this life time.

Mike Nuzzo

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Sorry Tom, not your grammar
You are always the voice of reason

I've never been to Mission Hills
I was asked to go and visited China to look at a project
The city wants to promote its trade and tourism
They have hopes for a nice golf course & inn & spa
The golf course wouldn't make money for some years - there are no golfers
But it would help their goals

I wouldn't call that an economically successful golf course
Maybe that is why he said "project"

Randy
China is worth the trip & it doesn't seem as far afterwards

Cheers
Thinking of Bob, Rihc, Bill, George, Neil, Dr. Childs, & Tiger.

Ian Andrew

I read somewhere recently they average 600 rounds per day.

Is the measure off finacially successful the golf course alone, or the development as whole?