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Michael George

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Match Play - Golf Courses - 1 round only
« on: February 20, 2012, 05:52:03 PM »
In honor of the Match Play this week, pick between the 2 golf courses/clubs listed below.  Obviously, you should only answer those that you have personal knowledge (got tired so stopped 2 matches short):

1-LA North v. Riviera
2-Olympic Lake v. San Francisco GC
3-Pacific Dunes v. Pebble Beach
4-Spyglass v. Monterey Peninsula Shore
5-Ballyneal v. Sand Hills
6-Honors v. Holston Hills
7-Olympia Fields (N) v. Medinah #3
8-Chicago GC v. Shoreacres
9-Muirfield Village v. The Golf Club
10-Scioto v. Inverness
11-Eastlake v. Peachtree
12-Whistling Straits v. Arcadia Bluffs
13-Country Club (Brookline) v. Myopia Hunt
14-Old Sandwich v. Boston GC
15-Winged Foot West v. Quaker Ridge
16-National v. Shinnecock
17-Friars Head v. Sebonack
18-Somerset Hills v. Plainfield
19-Merion v. Oakmont
20-Pinehurst #2 v. Bethpage Black
21-Baltusrol Lower v. Ridgewood
22-Shadow Creek v. TPC Sawgrass
23-Pete Dye GC v. Ballyhack
24-Wannamoisett v. Newport
25-Homestead Cascades v. Greenbrier Old White
26-Rolling Green v. Huningdon Valley
27-Dormie v. Cuscowilla
28-Wade Hampton v. Victoria National
29-Creek v. Piping Rock
30-Dismal River v. Kingsley  ;)
31-Yale v. Old Macdonald
32-Oakland Hills v. Oak Hill East
« Last Edit: February 20, 2012, 09:43:02 PM by Michael George »
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Keith OHalloran

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Re: Match Play - Golf Courses - 1st round only
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2012, 05:56:00 PM »
Shinnecock, Friars Head, Pinehurst 2.
These are he only three I can comment on.

Mark Saltzman

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Re: Match Play - Golf Courses - 1st round only
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2012, 05:56:24 PM »
Michael, for the last two matches, how about:

31-Wine Valley v. Chambers Bay
32- Cal Club v. Valley Club

Bill_McBride

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Re: Match Play - Golf Courses - 1st round only
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2012, 06:21:19 PM »
MPCC Shore.

Cuscowilla.

Mac Plumart

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Re: Match Play - Golf Courses - 1st round only
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2012, 06:24:05 PM »
5-Ballyneal v. Sand Hills
6-Honors v. Holston Hills
16-National v. Shinnecock----what a brutal first round match-up...could have been the final.
22-Shadow Creek v. TPC Sawgrass
27-Dormie v. Cuscowilla
Sportsman/Adventure loving golfer.

Bill McKinley

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Re: Match Play - Golf Courses - 1st round only
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2012, 06:33:32 PM »
How bout a Canterbury vs. The Country Club (Pepper Pike) for another match?  Or Oakland Hills South v. Oak Hill East.  Or Seminole v Indian Creek or Calusa Pines?  Just some ideas!

My picks:

The Golf Club
Scioto
Merion
Bethpage Black

hoping to be able to add one more pick after next week  ;)
« Last Edit: February 20, 2012, 06:35:03 PM by Bill McKinley »
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Tommy Williamsen

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Re: Match Play - Golf Courses - 1st round only
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2012, 06:37:41 PM »
I'll bite on the ones I have played. Winners bold
1-LA North v. Riviera       close
2-Olympic Lake v. San Francisco GC       Winner by a lot
3-Pacific Dunes v. Pebble Beach
4-Spyglass v. Monterey Peninsula Shore         Winner by a lot
5-Ballyneal v. Sand Hills        close
6-Honors v. Holston Hills
7-Olympia Fields (N) v. Medinah #3       close
8-Chicago GC v. Shoreacres
9-Muirfield Village v. The Golf Club        Winner by a lot
10-Scioto v. Inverness         Winner by a lot
11-Eastlake v. Peachtree    close
12-Whistling Straits v. Arcadia Bluffs          Winner by a lot
13-Country Club (Brookline) v. Myopia Hunt (maybe not better but certainly more fun)
14-Old Sandwich v. Boston GC
15-Winged Foot West v. Quaker Ridge       close
16-National v. Shinnecock         close
17-Friars Head v. Sebonack       close
18-Somerset Hills v. Plainfield          close
19-Merion v. Oakmont  (tie)
20-Pinehurst #2 v. Bethpage Black         winner by a lot
21-Baltusrol Lower v. Ridgewood         close
22-Shadow Creek v. TPC Sawgrass      close
23-Pete Dye GC v. Ballyhack             close
24-Wannamoisett v. Newport             close
25-Homestead Cascades v. Greenbrier Old White           close
26-Rolling Green v. Huningdon Valley
27-Dormie v. Cuscowilla
28-Wade Hampton v. Victoria National
29-Creek v. Piping Rock                close
30-Dismal River v. Kingsley            close
« Last Edit: February 20, 2012, 06:46:34 PM by Tommy Williamsen »
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Andy Troeger

Re: Match Play - Golf Courses - 1st round only
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2012, 06:38:35 PM »
1-LA North v. Riviera
3-Pacific Dunes v. Pebble Beach
4-Spyglass v. Monterey Peninsula Shore
6-Honors v. Holston Hills
7-Olympia Fields (N) v. Medinah #3
9-Muirfield Village v. The Golf Club
10-Scioto v. Inverness
12-Whistling Straits v. Arcadia Bluffs
27-Dormie v. Cuscowilla

Tom_Doak

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Re: Match Play - Golf Courses - 1st round only
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2012, 07:10:55 PM »
Michael:

I have been to most of these and will highlight my preference in bold.  However, I would like to complain about the pairings for my own courses.  :)  Why couldn't I have drawn The Honors Course or Olympia Fields, as opposed to Sand Hills and Pebble Beach?

1-LA North v. Riviera
2-Olympic Lake v. San Francisco GC
3-Pacific Dunes v. Pebble Beach
4-Spyglass v. Monterey Peninsula Shore
5-Ballyneal v. Sand Hills
6-Honors v. Holston Hills
7-Olympia Fields (N) v. Medinah #3
8-Chicago GC v. Shoreacres
9-Muirfield Village v. The Golf Club
10-Scioto v. Inverness
11-Eastlake v. Peachtree
12-Whistling Straits v. Arcadia Bluffs
13-Country Club (Brookline) v. Myopia Hunt
14-Old Sandwich v. Boston GC
15-Winged Foot West v. Quaker Ridge
16-National v. Shinnecock
17-Friars Head v. Sebonack
18-Somerset Hills v. Plainfield
19-Merion v. Oakmont
20-Pinehurst #2 v. Bethpage Black
21-Baltusrol Lower v. Ridgewood
22-Shadow Creek v. TPC Sawgrass
23-Pete Dye GC v. Ballyhack
24-Wannamoisett v. Newport
25-Homestead Cascades v. Greenbrier Old White
26-Rolling Green v. Huningdon Valley
27-Dormie v. Cuscowilla
28-Wade Hampton v. Victoria National
29-Creek v. Piping Rock
30-Dismal River v. Kingsley 

jonathan_becker

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Re: Match Play - Golf Courses - 1st round only
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2012, 07:12:58 PM »
Of the matchups where I've played both courses....

Winners in bold

9-Muirfield Village v. The Golf Club (a blow out from the tip off!)

10-Scioto v. Inverness (pulled away in the second half)

17-Friars Head v. Sebonack (a hard fought game where the better team prevails in the end)

19-Merion v. Oakmont (buzzer beater)

Ian Andrew

Re: Match Play - Golf Courses - 1st round only
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2012, 07:16:06 PM »
Only picked if I had played both

1-LA North v. Riviera
2-Olympic Lake v. San Francisco GC
3-Pacific Dunes v. Pebble Beach
4-Spyglass v. Monterey Peninsula Shore
9-Muirfield Village v. The Golf Club
15-Winged Foot West v. Quaker Ridge
16-National v. Shinnecock
17-Friars Head v. Sebonack
20-Pinehurst #2 v. Bethpage Black
26-Rolling Green v. Huningdon Valley

« Last Edit: February 20, 2012, 07:20:37 PM by Ian Andrew »

Mark Saltzman

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Re: Match Play - Golf Courses - 1st round only
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2012, 07:16:32 PM »
5-Ballyneal v. Sand Hills
7-Olympia Fields (N) v. Medinah #3
12-Whistling Straits v. Arcadia Bluffs
19-Merion v. Oakmont
20-Pinehurst #2 v. Bethpage Black
22-Shadow Creek v. TPC Sawgrass
25-Homestead Cascades v. Greenbrier Old White
30-Dismal River v. Kingsley  ;)

31-Wine Valley v. Chambers Bay

Intl-Cruden Bay v. North Berwick

33-Oakland Hills (South) v. Oak Hill (East)
« Last Edit: February 20, 2012, 09:52:27 PM by Mark Saltzman »

Michael George

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Re: Match Play - Golf Courses - 1st round only
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2012, 07:25:20 PM »
Tom:

The purpose of the match play was to pit 2 comparable and possibly rival golf courses against each other.  You should be flattered then by their inclusion with Sand Hills and Pebble Beach.  There is no second round as I don't have the time or the skill to compile the votes.  ???

I wanted to pair Rock Creek against Gozzer Ranch, in which I think Rock Creek would have been the clear favorite.  However, I did not think there was enough people that had played both courses.  I also wanted to pair Lost Dunes against The Dunes Club but thought it would  be hard to pit an 18 against a 9 hole course - would have been interested how that one worked out.

2 world-wide matches that I would love to see the votes of:

Barnbougle Dunes v. Lost Farm
Cruden Bay v. North Berwick
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Garland Bayley

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Re: Match Play - Golf Courses - 1st round only
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2012, 07:25:47 PM »
31-Wine Valley v. Chambers Bay
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Mark Saltzman

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Re: Match Play - Golf Courses - 1st round only
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2012, 07:33:32 PM »

I wanted to pair Rock Creek against Gozzer Ranch, in which I think Rock Creek would have been the clear favorite.  However, I did not think there was enough people that had played both courses.  

I would think that most people willing to travel to Northern Idaho to play Gozzer, would be willing to drive the couple hours extra to see RCCC.  That being said, I'm pretty sure it would be RCCC in a blowout!

Jim Colton

Re: Match Play - Golf Courses - 1st round only
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2012, 07:39:39 PM »
Michael,
 
  You need to find 2 more.

1-LA North v. Riviera
5-Ballyneal v. Sand Hills
12-Whistling Straits v. Arcadia Bluffs
16-National v. Shinnecock
17-Friars Head v. Sebonack
20-Pinehurst #2 v. Bethpage Black

Dan Herrmann

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Re: Match Play - Golf Courses - 1st round only
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2012, 07:43:12 PM »
Match 26 would definitely go into extra holes :)

For Huntington Valley - which 18 holes?

Michael George

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Re: Match Play - Golf Courses - 1st round only
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2012, 07:46:35 PM »
Here are 2 more matches:

Old Macdonald v. Yale

Oakland Hills v. Oak Hill East (for me this is a very hard match-up, because they are the 2 courses that I have played where I really wished I could have played them pre-renovation - except the greens, which are great).
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Cory Lewis

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Re: Match Play - Golf Courses - 1st round only
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2012, 08:07:11 PM »
2-San Francisco GC
3-Pebble Beach
4-Monterey Peninsula Shore
5-Sand Hills
6-Holston Hills
7-Olympia Fields (N)
9-The Golf Club
10-Scioto
11-Peachtree
12-Whistling Straits
13-Country Club (Brookline)
14-Old Sandwich
15-Quaker Ridge
16-National
17-Friars Head
18-Plainfield
19-Merion
20-Pinehurst #2
21-Ridgewood
23-Pete Dye GC 
24-Wannamoisett
25-Homestead Cascades
26-Huntingdon Valley
27-Dormie
28-Wade Hamptonl
29-Piping Rock
 

Can't comment on 1,8,22, and 30 as per the rules I haven't seen both courses
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Ronald Montesano

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Re: Match Play - Golf Courses - 1st round only
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2012, 08:13:15 PM »
Match 20 is crap. P2 gets C et C to do the reno while BPNoir gets Rees...that sheeeet ain't fair.
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Mark Johnson

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Re: Match Play - Golf Courses - 1st round only
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2012, 09:24:48 PM »

2-Olympic Lake v. San Francisco GC
3-Pacific Dunes v. Pebble Beach
4-Spyglass v. Monterey Peninsula Shore

6-Honors v. Holston Hills
7-Olympia Fields (N) v. Medinah #3
8-Chicago GC v. Shoreacres

12-Whistling Straits v. Arcadia Bluffs

15-Winged Foot West v. Quaker Ridge
16-National v. Shinnecock
17-Friars Head v. Sebonack

19-Merion v. Oakmont
20-Pinehurst #2 v. Bethpage Black

22-Shadow Creek v. TPC Sawgrass
23-Pete Dye GC v. Ballyhack

25-Homestead Cascades v. Greenbrier Old White


Merion vs. Oakmont first round??  Some great courses lost in round 1 -- Oakmont, W Straits, Shinnecock

Pete Blaisdell

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Re: Match Play - Golf Courses - 1 round only
« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2012, 07:58:23 AM »
1--RIVIERA          13--MYOPIA HUNT          25--HOMESTEAD
2--SAN FRANCISCO14--OLD SANDWICH        26-------------------
3--PACIFIC DUNES 15--QUAKER RIDGE         27------------------
4--MONTEREY       16--NATIONAL              28-----------------
5------------------    17--------------------         29------------------
6--HONORS          18--SOMERSET              30------------------
7--OLYMPIA         19--MERION                 31--OLD MAC
8--CHICAGO         20--PINEHURST             32--OAK HILL
9--THE GOLF CLUB 21--RIDGEWOOD
10--INVERNESS      22--TPC SAWGRASS
11--EAST LAKE      23------------------
12---------------      24--NEWPORT
' Golf courses are like wives and the prom queen doesn't always make for the best wife "

Jud_T

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Re: Match Play - Golf Courses - 1 round only
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2012, 08:27:40 AM »
of those where I've played both courses:

3  Pac Dunes
7 Olympia Fields N
8 Chicago Golf Club (very tough call though)
12 Whistling Straights  (lesser of two evils  ;))
20 Pinehurst #2
31 Old Mac


p.s.   how about another bracket for best Match Play courses?
« Last Edit: February 21, 2012, 08:29:12 AM by Jud Tigerman »
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Michael George

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Re: Match Play - Golf Courses - 1 round only
« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2012, 01:22:59 PM »
Brian:

Here you go:

1-Royal Dornoch (Championship) v. Royal Portrush (Dunluce)
2-Cruden Bay v. North Berwick
3-Castle Stuart v. Kingsbarns
4-St. Andrews Old v. Muirfield
5-Renaissance Club v. Guillane
6-Carnoustie v. Royal Troon (what would James Finnegan do as he panned both courses in his book)
7-Turnberry (Alisa) v. Machrihanish
8-Royal Birkdale v. Royal Liverpool
9-Ganton v. Woodhall Spa (Hotchkin)
10-Royal St. Georges v. Royal Cinque Ports
11-Suningdale (Old) v. Suningdale (New)
12-Royal West Norfolk v. St. Enodoc
13-Walton Heath (Old) v. Wentworth (West)
14-Celtic Manor v. The Belfry
15-Swinley Forest v. Rye
16-Lahinch v. Tralee
17-Waterville v. Old Head
18-Ballybunion (Old) v. Royal County Down
19-Carne v. Donegal
20-Ballyliffin (your choice) v. Rosapenna
21-St. George's v. National Golf Club
22-Toronto v. Hamilton
23-Banff v. Jasper Park
24-Highland Links v. Capilano
25-Teeth of the Dog v. Cabo de Sol
26-Barnbougle Dunes v. Lost Farm
27-Royal Melbourne West v. Royal Melbourne East
28-Kingston Heath v. New South Wales
29-Cape Kidnappers v. Kauri Cliffs
30-Ellerston v. The National - Moonah
31-Metropolitan v. Commonwealth v. Yarra Yarra
32-St. Andrews Beach v. Victoria
« Last Edit: February 21, 2012, 01:36:00 PM by Michael George »
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Bill_McBride

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Re: Match Play - Golf Courses - 1 round only
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2012, 01:52:23 PM »
No way I can make these calls:

Royal St George's vs Royal Cinque Ports

Pacific Dunes vs Pebble Beach

But I will pick St Andrews Old over Muirfield by a whisker and Old Macdonald over Yale the same.

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