[Neil Regan]

A pregnant quote from today's coverage by Golf Channel of the tournament at Riviera:
"Not much rough anywhere out here to be found, And yet the cut's still going to be close to 3 over par."
Conditions were benign.
The commenters discussed Thomas ("George") and very much enjoyed, inter alia, the creative shots over and around the mid-green bunker, and Murray's descriptionn of the short 10th as a "shameless little harlot that just sits there at the end of the bar in her miniskirt and mesh stockings and winks at you."
Will such talk make it to the weekend?
Maybe a sea change is happening.
Or is this restricted to Golf Channel audiences ?

[Matthew Schulte]

Brandle Chamblee even joined the architectural conversation recognizing the 4th as a redan.  It went south from there when he mentioned that the original redan is famously #11 at North Berwick! At least he had the right course and had it on the back nine.

[Neil Regan]

Matthew,
 
 That's a minor mistake. Discussing Redan with a large audience is a major opportunity.

[Chris Munoz]

Which senior associate from Fazio design did the recent changes, Tom Marzolf?

[Mac Plumart]

Matthew,
 
 That's a minor mistake. Discussing Redan with a large audience is a major opportunity.

I agree that is a minor mistake, but a huge breakthrough.  He further went on to discuss the strategy of the hole and why all of the tee balls landed short of the green...as the players wanted the ball the feed to  the hole down the slope.  He also went on to say that when the hole was designed the architect couldn't have imagined players attacking the green from 220 yards with 5 irons.

Pretty cool stuff I thought.


And, oh yeah, the course looks freakin' amazing on tv.  And I am not talking how pretty it looks.  I'm talking how cool the strategies are and the tactics you could employ to try to conquer that course.  Even with these changes people are talking about Riviera looks out of this world good.

[Matthew Schulte]

Matthew,
 
 That's a minor mistake. Discussing Redan with a large audience is a major opportunity.

Neil:

You are 100% correct. The fact that they are even discussing it is huge progress. If the tour played more terrific courses like Riviera perhaps these types of comments would become more common.

[Terry Lavin]

Just imagine if they invoked gca.com!  The gush-o-meter would go through the ethernetical roof!

[Neil Regan]

Terry,

  No gushing. Just hoping. It's important,  in a way, I think. I think you think so too.

[Carl Rogers]

the 10th is too easy (for pro golfers) in February , too soft ... insufficient penalty for the slightly off line shot.  I bet it is different in August.

[Adam Clayman]

Carl, How could that be true when the Kikuyu is not dormant in August?

[Jim Nugent]

the 10th is too easy (for pro golfers) in February , too soft ... insufficient penalty for the slightly off line shot. 

Over the past 28 years, it's been the 3rd easiest hole against par for the pro's.  Average score, 3.851.  It's the only par 4 at Riviera they average under par on. 

Toughest hole against par is #2.  Average score on the front:  35.482.  Average on the back:  36.266.  Average for the 18 holes:  71.708.  About 7/10ths of a stroke over par. 

[Bob_Huntley]

the 10th is too easy (for pro golfers) in February , too soft ... insufficient penalty for the slightly off line shot.  

Over the past 28 years, it's been the 3rd easiest hole against par for the pro's.  Average score, 3.851.  It's the only par 4 at Riviera they average under par on.  

Toughest hole against par is #2.  Average score on the front:  35.482.  Average on the back:  36.266.  Average for the 18 holes:  71.708.  About 7/10ths of a stroke over par.  

Carl,

In 1975 it played as a par 5 for members. I remember it well.

Bob

[Mac Plumart]

Phil?

Keegan?

Other?

I got Keegan in a playoff.

[Mac Plumart]

BOOM!!!!

Phil is clutch!!!

[John Kirk]

Three man playoff moves to the tenth hole.  That's pretty cool. 

[Mac Plumart]

10 is a cool hole for the sudden death scenario.

[Mac Plumart]

Pressure?

[Mac Plumart]

OMG!!!

[Sven Nilsen]

Anyone catch the Ballyneal logo on Keegan's caddy's shirt sleeve?

[Carl Rogers]

Carl, How could that be true when the Kikuyu is not dormant in August?

Adam, I probably jammed foot into mouth.  Does Riviera play with consistent turf conditions all months of the year?

[Adam Clayman]

Carl, I only know the nature of Kikuyu. It's most playable, as it pertains to firmness, in the winter. Summertime, Imagine steel wool with Stolons.

[Tim Book]

After watching the replay of yesterdays closing round, I swear I remember a tree short and left of the18th green?  I haven't been to the tournament in a few years, was a tree removed? 

[Lynn_Shackelford]

After watching the replay of yesterdays closing round, I swear I remember a tree short and left of the18th green?  I haven't been to the tournament in a few years, was a tree removed? 

Yes.  It has probably been gone for at least 5 years.

[Tim Book]

Why was the tree removed?  I remember it making it that much more necessary to try and hit a draw into the green.    Having never played the hole I remember thinking how difficult it would be to hit a draw from a slice lie.  Is it now possible to hit a fade into the green?

[Matthew Essig]

Why was the tree removed?  I remember it making it that much more necessary to try and hit a draw into the green.    Having never played the hole I remember thinking how difficult it would be to hit a draw from a slice lie.  Is it now possible to hit a fade into the green?

It is probably for spectator sight lines.

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