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Scott Warren

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The Coast - $30 very well spent
« on: February 17, 2012, 01:42:01 AM »
There's nothing better than being surprised by a golf course that you weren't expecting much from.

I'd never made The Coast (in Sydney's eastern suburbs) a priority, perhaps because discussion of the course among those who knew it always seemed to centre on the bizarre lay-up 90-degree dogleg at the 11th hole, and that left me feeling that this was a course I didn't need to play.

But in looking for a cheap and cheerful midweek afternoon round that wouldn't break the bank ($30 after 1pm), I decided to give The Coast a go, not least of all because of its seaside locale and the fact that I'd played the other three courses that neighbour each other along the cliffs between Malabar and La Perouse (Randwick, St Michael's and New South Wales), so I figured I may as well complete the set.

As with most courses on the seaside, many of the best holes were those that flanked the water.

The 3rd green is where you first reach the coastline and it's also where The Coast's occasional quirk first comes into play, the green completely blind on the approach but far easier to hit that it appears thanks to a downslope short of the green - though that slope can easily help your ball run to the back of the green, leaving a tough downhill putt if the pin is cut at the front.

The mid iron par three 4th is another highlight, playing over a rocky inlet, though it's disappointing the green isn't set closer to the cliff, making as wonderful architecturally as it is aesthetically. And with a good 60 metres of unused land behind the back tees, there is an opportunity to create a heroic long par three or short par four where you're torn as to whether you take on the carry or play safely around it. But to be fair to the club, that would mean significant change to the 3rd hole and the loss of its wonderful greensite.


There isn't much to the par four 5th, with ocean left and a pond right off the tee, and the best line in from the absolute middle of the fairway, but after a few holes that are short for their par it's a tough drive and approach in a wonderful location.


Highlights are fewer on the back nine, and it's also where the land is used in some interesting ways to make the course work. In that way and in terms of the setting and style of holes, The Coast did remind be somewhat of Crail (Balcomie) in Fife, Scotland. Holes such as the short par four 10th, mid-length "ski jump" 16th and seaside 17th could all be described as awkward or forced, but they do create some fun and interesting shots in the process.

But in the middle of the closing stretch, the 14th is probably the best hole on the course, a par four that utilises wonderfully both the coastline and a rocky rise down the right covered in native scrub. With the green tucked in behind that rocky area, there is tremendous benefit to a drive that flirts with the cliffs, and as you reach the green that becomes even more evident, as the back of the green is not too far from another steep drop and distance control is crucial -- far easier with a clear view than when playing blind over the native bushes. And like the elastic par four 7th, this hole is a very different prospect from 385 metres than from 285 metres at the front tees, but a brilliant hole from either distance.


There are flat spots throughout the round, but very few glaring flaws that upset the flow, other than the walk from the 9th to 10th and the regrettable home hole.

This isn't world class golf like you'll find a kilometre or so down the coast at NSWGC, but with the same money buying you five or six rounds at The Coast or a single loop of NSWGC the value here is undeniably fantastic, and the course's shortcomings are more than worth putting up with for the absolute joy of playing the likes of the 3rd through 5th, 7th, 11th, 12th and 14th.
« Last Edit: February 17, 2012, 03:41:56 AM by Scott Warren »

Bryan Izatt

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Re: The Coast - $30 very well spent
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2012, 03:40:06 AM »
Scott,

So what did YOU think of the bizarre 11th?  There's a nice view looking back from the green, but otherwise this is one of the strangest holes I've ever played.  Perhaps a model hole for what not to do in a design for Golf Architecture 101.




In your last line, you included 14 as a hole that needed to be put up with.  I assume that's a typo.  Loved the drive and the green site.




The 2nd wasn't much of a hole but the walk down was certainly nice.  Felt good to just whale away at the driver too, although the wind was a bit of a factor.





Scott Warren

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Re: The Coast - $30 very well spent
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2012, 03:46:19 AM »
Have reworded that last line to be more clear, Bryan. I was saying the flat spots are well worth enduring for the enjoyment of those holes I listed.

From the "new" tee that plays across the 10th fairway, I thought the 11th was a decent hole. A little dogleg left, some blindness to consider off the tee... it was fun. But looking at what would have been the case from the old tee, an absolute aberration.

Some nice pics you took, too. I forgot my camera and had to make do with my phone.

Bryan Izatt

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Re: The Coast - $30 very well spent
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2012, 04:01:21 AM »
I played the tee behind the green with absolutely no idea where the hole was or how to play it.  The new tee looks like an improvement, but it must be a real safety hazard.  Also, it must still be easy to lose the drive right over the hill? 

Scott Warren

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Re: The Coast - $30 very well spent
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2012, 04:05:49 AM »
Yeah, it's really easy to lose one right off the tee. I played what I thought was a B line, so thinking I could have bailed even further right, and I was in the right rough, about 3m inside the native bushes.

Greg Thomsen

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Re: The Coast - $30 very well spent
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2012, 05:59:04 AM »
Scott & Bryan

I play the coast on occasion, certainly some interesting holes there, 14 is a cracker. What did you think of the landing area of the 7th, to me it seems pretty tight and with the camber and firm ground there, I've seen many reasonable drives end up in the right rubbish.

I don't want to hijack your thread but, did you notice the concrete cart path & bridge work they are doing at St Micks at the moment, you can see it from the 4th green/5th tee at the coast. Looks like they have gone all out there, looks like a lot of crete.   

Cheers, Greg

Scott Warren

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Re: The Coast - $30 very well spent
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2012, 06:05:30 AM »
I did see that, Greg. Last time I played St Mick's it appeared they were building an artificial waterway down the left of the par five 6th, which IIRC will cut across and join the pond they have there between 6 and 17.

As I understand it, the work at St Mick's is being done in-house. It varies greatly from very good (the bunkering on 14 and 12) to appalling (the new fairway traps on 11) and I fear the changes to 6 will fall under the latter umbrella.

The common wisdom has always appeared to be that the courses on that coastline rank in order from south to north: NSWGC, St Mick's, Coast, Randwick. But I have to say that for my money, The Coast is comfortably better -- and by the length of the straight more fun to play -- than St Michael's.

Greg Thomsen

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Re: The Coast - $30 very well spent
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2012, 06:34:46 AM »
Yes Scott, the works look very suss to me. Those new bunkers on 11 are terrible.

You would think a club like St micks would have enough collective intelligence to obtain the advice of a good gca. I do a bit of concrete work, I can tell you they would be dropping a considerable sum into that work even if its in house or whatever.

Surely could have been spent better in other areas. Some of the greensites there could be redone in my opinion, number 10 comes to mind. Seems like a bit of a rudderless ship.

Andrew Summerell

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Re: The Coast - $30 very well spent
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2012, 07:17:09 AM »
I agree, The Coast is more fun than St Michael’s. It has some good holes, with the 14th being the stand out, some interesting/unusual holes & nothing too bad.

The 3rd green is only a few years old. The old green was a little forward of where the green is now.

The 7th use to be a short par 5 with the green up the hill from where it is now. The old hole use to curve slightly around O.O.B created by the hospital when it was there. It wasn’t a great hole, but it made you feel like taking a risk was worth it. You had a chance of a birdie or an eagle, but a 7 was possible as well.

The old 10th tee was forward of where it is now & the hole went right over where the new 11th tee is. The green was on top of a hill that rose straight up from the creek about 16 feet. The hole was a par 4 at 220m. It sounds easy, but I have had a 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 & 7 at that hole.

The 11th tee was next to the old 10th green on top of the hill. It gave you a good clear view and allowed most golfers to hit driver, depending how much of the corner they wanted to cut off. Again, not a great hole, but better than it is now.

The Coast has more ‘quirk’ than you generally find in Australian courses. The closing 3 maybe the ‘quirkiest’ closing holes in Australia & I must say I don’t mind them. Greens like the 9th with the un-pinable front 3rd of the green (I assume they haven’t changed that) are the stuff that some golfers hate, but I don’t mind.

I’ve played there in wind so strong I hit my approach to the 5th 80m out into the ocean to watch it fly across the green & plug into the back lip of the right side bunker. I hit the 6th green in two that day after needing a 5 iron for my 3rd at the 2nd. The green staff ended up taking the pins out for fear they might break. Just a slight over reaction, but nonetheless it was windy.

On another day I saw my partner address his ball to putt, to then watch it roll 20 feet off the front of the 14th.

The other funny Coast story was when I was playing in a three ball on a Friday comp with these two guys in a cart. They had 3 and 5 point respectively on the front nine & then they both wiped the 10th. At this point one of them tells me they left a club back on the 9th tee, so they drove back to get it. I waited on the 11th tee (I had 21 point on the front nine & had just birdied the 10th) as the group behind went through. Then the next group. Then when the 3rd group came through I thought I better see what was going on. I couldn’t find them so I went back to the pro shop & they said the guys handed their cart in & left. That’s how unattractive I am to play golf with.

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