Mark, I have played both Troons, both Greyhawks, We-ko-pa Seguro, Talking Stick North, Raven at South Mountain, and others, and they all play about the same. We-ko-pa is probably at the top of my list, but it is a bit out of town. Because they are all fairly similar, I look for the best deal. At Greyhawk, I am on their email list, and they send out internet specials to my cellphone that are 50% or more off of list price. I have paid as low as $69 for a 9:00 am tee time; regular price I think was $175 at that time. Granted, I am usually a single, but getting out has never been an issue.