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Anthony Butler

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Re: 2012 Golf Australia Top100
« Reply #125 on: February 02, 2012, 04:44:48 PM »
The preparations for the grudge match are progressing well, with a booking for 12 on Friday 10th at 8:30PM at Motorino after golf.

The magazine provided us with a guideline to assist in determining our rankings

1) DESIGN: 60 points (variety of holes, shot values, playability for all golfers etc)
2) CONDITIONING: 20 points (overall presentation)
3) THE EXPERIENCE: 20 points (What is the experience like…memorable holes etc)

Interestingly, the Australian Golf Digest rankings will come out next week I believe

It is clear that Golf Australia have made a serious effort to focus their rankings on the quality of the course, not the extraneous stuff like clubhouses, prestige, history as a tournament venue, etc.

Could panellists (or anyone else that wants to have a go) please tell me how they rated Metropolitan (9) against Ranfurlie (59) using the above criteria as an example.

I know people from Melbourne have a limited appreciation for physical beauty
Anthony, unable to respond in a constructive manner on this thread, you instead resorted to an array of irrelevancies, nonsense and personal attacks. The asinine quote above was one of them. I responded to it with the slightly flip.

Although you may be onto something - our differences may in fact be cultural, the sophistication of Melbourne against the crassness of Sydney.

Having raised the topic, you followed it up with

Mark... frankly the crassness argument about Sydney is really old and I would think Melbournians might have had time to come up with something better in the 45 years since Menzies stepped down and the economic and political center of power shifted to Sydney. I really enjoy the fact that Melbourne is more European than Sydney and, despite some attempts to tart it up Sydney-style, it still retains more of it's original character than certain areas of Sydney.

Having wrongly attributed the quote to Mark, you then compounded your error by rather extraordinarily calling him a liar and imply he is a Republican.  

You should probably delete it from your post before you deny making it... you're just insulting everyone's intelligence otherwise.

Mark, you should come over here and run for the Republican nomination... The exit polls from tonite's Florida Republican primary indicate that 40% of voters don't believe Romney or Gingrich is the right guy to lie to them for the next 4 years...    

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Anthony Butler

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Re: 2012 Golf Australia Top100 New
« Reply #126 on: February 02, 2012, 04:47:34 PM »
For some reason, the offending phrase appears in my thread as if Mark was the author.... But as Justin has decided to fall on the grenade for this one. I can only say that I was simply responding to what was on the screen in front of me, but since Justin has owned up to it, I will take that as the truth and withdraw my comments about Mark being a liar...  I do not, however, retract my comment about Republican Presidential candidates and their proclivity for uttering untruths each and every time they open their mouths.

If I could make a suggestion, this kind of misunderstanding is more likely to happen when everyone encapsulates 5 different quotes from other thread respondents in their replies. These threads are starting to take on the character of court depositions with pictures. For that I guess we have to thank the inimitable Mr. Mucci and his multi-colored missives.

In terms of answering Brian:

NSWGC is measurably better than it was 20 years ago... at that point in time, I was playing the course mostly with my grandfather and the tee tree. scrub etc was so high it blocked the views on some holes. The fire of 1998 opened up the vistas across the course... Add the greenside bunker revetting, the general improvement in condition of the playing surfaces... which considering the location are superb... Combine it with fabulous routing taking you out to the coast and back twice, plus the natural, almost wild nature of the location (at what other World Top 40 course can you encounter something that might kill you before you make it back to the clubhouse?). It makes for an exhilarating golfing experience.

I have always been sympathetic to the need to make small tweaks to the course so it can be playable in a wider variety of weather conditions (which explains much of the re-contouring of the greens over the last 10 years (e.g. 3,7,17) but some other changes have removed the strategic options built into the course by Mackenzie and Apperly. i.e. 18-There is really only one way to play this hole now. If you're not going for the green in two, your decision is simple... take on the new bunkers in the lay up area or stay back further to leave a full wedge/9 iron approach.

The stuff everyone else is throwing in about the changing mowing lines (minimal and irrelevant), internal rough and nature areas are all minor and subject to change... The reason NSWGC has a World Top 40 ranking and a closed membership waiting list is because the club has a clear vision of the golfing experience they want to provide to members and guests, and a well-established process for taking in feedback on how well they are executing on that vision.
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