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ed_getka

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Yale and North Berwick
« on: January 01, 2002, 07:48:09 PM »
I am reading Darren K's book and was struck by a comment he made, calling Yale and North Berwick "eerily similar" (sans ocean view) in terms of terrain the courses are laid out on. I haven't seen either course in person but was curious to hear from those who have what they thought about Darren's observation.
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"Perimeter-weighted fairways", The best euphemism for containment mounding I've ever heard.

Gib_Papazian

Re: Yale and North Berwick
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2002, 08:22:36 PM »
I've thought about it . . . . . and have no idea, concept or even basic understanding about what he could be talking about.

However, he has as discerning an eye as anyone, so perhaps we might be lucky enough for him to elaborate.
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Neil Crafter

Re: Yale and North Berwick
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2002, 02:17:01 AM »
:D Ed, I've seen North Berwick but not Yale so can't really grasp what Darren is getting at. Have you the details on Darren's book please? Thanks
cheers
Neil
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BillV

Re: Yale and North Berwick
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2002, 03:30:16 AM »
Is the correct answer, "I don't see it, Darren?"

Haven't read the book, have played both courses. I'll wait also.
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GeoffreyC

Re: Yale and North Berwick
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2002, 06:18:29 AM »
I just finished Darrin's book this weekend.  I was a bit disappointed.

Yale and North Berwick both have 18 holes including a redan and a green with a swale in it.  That's the extent of their similarity.
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Paul Richards

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Re: Yale and North Berwick
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2002, 06:20:46 AM »
GeoffreyC:

Absolutely agree.  I've played both and they both do have
18 holes and a Redan.  Outside of that, don't have a clue
what he's talking about. ???
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THuckaby2

Re: Yale and North Berwick
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2002, 06:24:02 AM »
I've read DK's book and played both courses.

And well.... I do SORT OF get what he's saying.  It takes a wild leap of imagination, but try to picture Yale without any of the trees, and block the ocean of of N. Berwick... The terrain, rolls, etc. are indeed sort of similar.

Ah, screw it - even that's a huge stretch.

Darren, please do set us straight here!

TH
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Mike_Cirba

Re: Yale and North Berwick
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2002, 06:30:37 AM »
If I understand what Darren's getting at with the comparison, it would simply be that both courses include some very BOLD, unusual features.  There are green complexes and quirky blind shots, and deep hollows and bunkering, and an element of great variety and complexity that each share in abundance.

Both courses are chock-full of fun and adventurous to play.

Neither course is "standard", even in comparison to other great courses on each respective continent.  

Is that what you were getting at, Darren?  ;)  
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THuckaby2

Re: Yale and North Berwick
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2002, 06:44:13 AM »
Mike - if that's all it is, I'll be pretty disappointed.  You could say that about Yale and MANY courses in Scotland... if has to be more than that, doesn't it?

TH
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