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Patrick_Mucci

Re: To whom did Pete Dye refer when he stated the following?
« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2011, 11:43:30 AM »
I'll also go with Dick Wilson as my second choice
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PThomas

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Re: To whom did Pete Dye refer when he stated the following?
« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2011, 12:04:20 PM »
Ross
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Garland Bayley

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Re: To whom did Pete Dye refer when he stated the following?
« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2011, 12:47:27 PM »
Jack

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Patrick_Mucci

Re: To whom did Pete Dye refer when he stated the following?
« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2011, 01:27:02 PM »
Quote from: Ran Morrissett on December 05, 2011, 05:44:37 AM
‘He has forgotten more about architecture than the rest of us combined will ever know.'

Ran,

When Pete used the word "us" he included himself, and as such I don't think he was referencing any living, practicing architect, and I don't believe that he would concede that Jack knows more about architecture than he does.
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Mike Tanner

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Re: To whom did Pete Dye refer when he stated the following?
« Reply #29 on: December 05, 2011, 02:04:23 PM »
Donald Ross
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Mike Vegis @ Kiawah

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Re: To whom did Pete Dye refer when he stated the following?
« Reply #30 on: December 05, 2011, 02:11:34 PM »
There could only be one answer -- Ran Morrissett   ;D
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Lynn_Shackelford

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Re: To whom did Pete Dye refer when he stated the following?
« Reply #31 on: December 05, 2011, 02:16:36 PM »
Bobby Knight.
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PCCraig

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Re: To whom did Pete Dye refer when he stated the following?
« Reply #32 on: December 05, 2011, 02:19:54 PM »
Quote from: Patrick_Mucci on December 05, 2011, 01:27:02 PM
Quote from: Ran Morrissett on December 05, 2011, 05:44:37 AM
‘He has forgotten more about architecture than the rest of us combined will ever know.'

Ran,

When Pete used the word "us" he included himself, and as such I don't think he was referencing any living, practicing architect, and I don't believe that he would concede that Jack knows more about architecture than he does.

Ran never said when Pete said the above.
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Peter Pallotta

Re: To whom did Pete Dye refer when he stated the following?
« Reply #33 on: December 05, 2011, 02:32:49 PM »
Lynn - OT, but were you to pick a coach to lead your college team, would it be Bobby K or (my pick) John Thompson?

Peter
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Jim Franklin

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Re: To whom did Pete Dye refer when he stated the following?
« Reply #34 on: December 05, 2011, 02:35:36 PM »
I always thought someone said that about Pete Dye. I will go with Pete about Pete.
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Mac Plumart

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Re: To whom did Pete Dye refer when he stated the following?
« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2011, 02:36:47 PM »
I'm "all-in" on Jack.
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Chris Johnston

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Re: To whom did Pete Dye refer when he stated the following?
« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2011, 02:37:17 PM »
John Kavanaugh
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Rick Shefchik

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Re: To whom did Pete Dye refer when he stated the following?
« Reply #37 on: December 05, 2011, 02:55:44 PM »
Desmond Muirhead.
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Andy Stamm

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Re: To whom did Pete Dye refer when he stated the following?
« Reply #38 on: December 05, 2011, 07:52:37 PM »
Frederick Law Olmsted
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Ken Fry

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Re: To whom did Pete Dye refer when he stated the following?
« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2011, 09:21:49 PM »
I'm in the RTJ Sr. camp as well...

Ken
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JMEvensky

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Re: To whom did Pete Dye refer when he stated the following?
« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2011, 09:42:56 AM »
Quote from: PPallotta on December 05, 2011, 02:32:49 PM

Lynn - OT, but were you to pick a coach to lead your college team, would it be Bobby K or (my pick) John Thompson?

Peter


Peter,I'd bet a large stack that his first choice would be John Wooden.

You really think Thompson is Knight's equal as a bench coach?
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Lynn_Shackelford

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Re: To whom did Pete Dye refer when he stated the following?
« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2011, 09:58:55 AM »
My top picks to lead a team?

John Wooden
Pete Newell
Coach K
Bobby Knight, before he went goofy

John Thompson would not be on my top 100.

Including Bobby Knight into this discussion of course refers to his famous post game media gathering when he said, "I have forgotten more about this f**king game than any of you are ever going to know."
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Peter Pallotta

Re: To whom did Pete Dye refer when he stated the following?
« Reply #42 on: December 06, 2011, 10:19:55 AM »
Jeff, Lynn - oh, I knew it would be Coach Wooden first, and from what I have read it should be. And of course Bobby Knight and Coach K.  But the way Georgetown played the game, the players Coach Thompson recruited and how he melded those young men into a team, and the respect with which he seemed to deal with them as people -- anyway, I always liked that (as a young basketball player).  Mostly,  just liked watching college basketball most when a team like Georgetown was playing.  I defer to Lynn of course when it comes to understanding the nuances of the game and the strengths of coaches -- but I'm a sentimentalist, and for many years my heart was with Georgetown....

Peter
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JMEvensky

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Re: To whom did Pete Dye refer when he stated the following?
« Reply #43 on: December 06, 2011, 10:30:23 AM »
Quote from: PPallotta on December 06, 2011, 10:19:55 AM
Jeff, Lynn - oh, I knew it would be Coach Wooden first, and from what I have read it should be. And of course Bobby Knight and Coach K.  But the way Georgetown played the game, the players Coach Thompson recruited and how he melded those young men into a team, and the respect with which he seemed to deal with them as people -- anyway, I always liked that (as a young basketball player).  Mostly,  just liked watching college basketball most when a team like Georgetown was playing.  I defer to Lynn of course when it comes to understanding the nuances of the game and the strengths of coaches -- but I'm a sentimentalist, and for many years my heart was with Georgetown....

Peter

Peter,he didn't meld them into a team so much as melding them into a street gang.He's a racist bully and his teams were a reflection of that.Plus,he made Lefty Dreisell look like the second coming of Red Auerbach.
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JMEvensky

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Re: To whom did Pete Dye refer when he stated the following?
« Reply #44 on: December 06, 2011, 10:33:53 AM »
Quote from: Lynn_Shackelford on December 06, 2011, 09:58:55 AM

Including Bobby Knight into this discussion of course refers to his famous post game media gathering when he said, "I have forgotten more about this f**king game than any of you are ever going to know."


He was right,of course.

Still not as good a line as when he was asked if he was worried during a late comeback against LSU and said "not when I looked at the other bench and saw Dale Brown".
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Peter Pallotta

Re: To whom did Pete Dye refer when he stated the following?
« Reply #45 on: December 06, 2011, 10:41:01 AM »
Jeff - I don't know if what you say is true or not, but I know I never saw or noticed any of that it the early 80s, watching him lead the team on a terrific run of success.  Big, tough guy - sure....but he seemed to treat his players with respect. And they played the game fast, whcih i liked.

Peter
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Tommy Williamsen

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Re: To whom did Pete Dye refer when he stated the following?
« Reply #46 on: December 06, 2011, 12:23:11 PM »
I have to go with RTJ Sr.  I seem to remember him saying something like this in an interview when the interviewer denigrated some of RTJ's design work.
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Kalen Braley

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Re: To whom did Pete Dye refer when he stated the following?
« Reply #47 on: December 06, 2011, 12:24:34 PM »
Ok Ran,

You can log back in now and put us out of our misery!!  ;D
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Ross Harmon

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Re: To whom did Pete Dye refer when he stated the following?
« Reply #48 on: December 07, 2011, 12:10:03 AM »
Quote from: Kalen Braley on December 06, 2011, 12:24:34 PM
Ok Ran,

You can log back in now and put us out of our misery!!  ;D

No kidding! Who was it Ran?
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Ross Harmon

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Re: To whom did Pete Dye refer when he stated the following?
« Reply #49 on: December 07, 2011, 12:14:13 AM »
For the record though... I'll guess Mr. Ross.
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