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BCowan

Re: Has anyone played Boca Rio?
« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2018, 09:14:22 AM »
Timuquana is superior to Calusa Pines by a Doak point.  Calusa isn't even the best in Naples imo. 

Jason Topp

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Re: Has anyone played Boca Rio?
« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2018, 11:32:01 AM »
Boca Rio is very good and a pleasant walk.

John_Conley

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Re: Has anyone played Boca Rio?
« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2018, 11:38:40 AM »
Timuquana is superior to Calusa Pines by a Doak point.


Calusa Pines wins over Timuquana by two Conley points.

BCowan

Re: Has anyone played Boca Rio?
« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2018, 11:48:33 AM »
Timuquana is superior to Calusa Pines by a Doak point.


Calusa Pines wins over Timuquana by two Conley points.


When Hepner is done with the work there it will be 2 Doak points better then CP.   ;)

Ryan Taylor

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Re: Has anyone played Boca Rio?
« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2018, 03:55:13 PM »
Timuquana is superior to Calusa Pines by a Doak point.


Calusa Pines wins over Timuquana by two Conley points.


When Hepner is done with the work there it will be 2 Doak points better then CP.   ;)

Look forward to future updates on the progress at Timuquana.

I found this quote interesting; "In the seventy years since Donald Ross built the course, the changes introduced by other architects to "freshen" the course had erased the characteristics that made the original design playable and enjoyable. Bobby Weed was tasked in 1995 with restoring the Ross design, but there was no blueprints or design notes. His only reference was a 1943 aerial photograph from the nearby Navy base. On three holes, Workers found groups of bushes planted as 150-yard markers in 1923 that were now 20 yards in the rough. Between April and October 1996, Weed cleared brush and cut down 800 trees that had encroached on the fairways, restoring the angles that Ross intended."
"Bandon is like Chamonix for skiers or the North Shore of Oahu for surfers,” Rogers said. “It is where those who really care end up."

Rees Milikin

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Re: Has anyone played Boca Rio?
« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2018, 04:12:04 PM »
Timuquana is superior to Calusa Pines by a Doak point.


Calusa Pines wins over Timuquana by two Conley points.


When Hepner is done with the work there it will be 2 Doak points better then CP.   ;)

Look forward to future updates on the progress at Timuquana.

I found this quote interesting; "In the seventy years since Donald Ross built the course, the changes introduced by other architects to "freshen" the course had erased the characteristics that made the original design playable and enjoyable. Bobby Weed was tasked in 1995 with restoring the Ross design, but there was no blueprints or design notes. His only reference was a 1943 aerial photograph from the nearby Navy base. On three holes, Workers found groups of bushes planted as 150-yard markers in 1923 that were now 20 yards in the rough. Between April and October 1996, Weed cleared brush and cut down 800 trees that had encroached on the fairways, restoring the angles that Ross intended."


Minus the routing this 1943 aerial doesn't look very close to what is there today.


JNagle

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Re: Has anyone played Boca Rio?
« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2018, 09:53:15 AM »
If interested you can view a number of drone videos showing the most recent renovation of the
Boca Rio course.  The GM for Boca was on the property nearly every day documenting the progress
which allowed members to stay up-to-date on the project. 


Ron Forse and I have had the distinct pleasure of working with Boca Rio for nearly 20 years now.
There is so much to like about the place.  What I found most interesting was the similarities between
Pine Tree and Boca Rio.  Robert Von Hagge built the majority on Pine Tree for Wilson as he was in a
steady decline due to his excessive drinking.  I spoke with Kelly Blake Moran about the connection
between Pine Tree and Boca wondering in Von Hagge ever spoke about inspiration from one to the
other.  He did not recall any mention.  One morning I toured Pine Tree in the midst of a green rebuilding
and regrassing.  Later that day I went to Boca to work on the project there and just spent time wandering on
my own and studying.  There are a number of similarities and yet many differences.  Pine Tree does not have
the mounding variations that Boca has and previously had.  Both have the influence of preferred playing
angles into the greens.  Pine Tree has a more dramatic bunker style and appearance but that is not a knock
against Boca, its just that the Hogan commissioned photos and what has been restored a couple times by
Ron Forse is very dramatic.  The greens at Boca are as would be expected from an architect that can trace
his roots back to Flynn - apparent simplicity and actual complexity.  There are subtleties that are learned and
not jumping out at you.


I must also mention the superintendent of the Boca Rio Golf Course - Bob Randquist.  Bob is that rare individual
that you feel better for being associated with him.  Very genuine, hard working and simply one of the best supers
in the industry.  He is a pleasure to work with.


Here is a link to the summary of the 1st week
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srRUTXkmm_4


Final Week summary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cefhi1V7RXg
It's not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or the doer of deeds could have done better.  The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; .....  "The Critic"

Brian Finn

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Re: Has anyone played Boca Rio?
« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2018, 08:23:16 PM »
I know very little about Boca Rio, but an endorsement by Mark Saltzman has proven many times to point me in the direction of great golf courses.  Similarly, I've always been impressed by the work of Ron Forse and Jim Nagle, at courses such as Springfield CC and Bedford Springs, to name just a couple.  Finally, I think Dick Wilson was an outstanding designer of golf courses, despite working during a time period many here automatically write off. I haven't seen or played a course of his that I didn't believe was very high quality. So, I hope to see Boca Rio (and Pine Tree) next time I'm in the area.
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