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Chris Johnston

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Re: Ballyneal in foreclosure
« Reply #500 on: March 17, 2012, 09:39:16 PM »
Wonderful News!

Congratulations Ballynealers!

Tim Martin

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Re: Ballyneal in foreclosure
« Reply #501 on: March 17, 2012, 09:47:27 PM »
I am a member of Ballyneal and just committed for 2012.  I joined in 2011, so you can do the math.  I hate taking carts.  I think it is a great idea to offer limited cart use.

They need new members, right?  No need to significantly limit your potential demographic.

The last 48 hours have honestly been the first time I have started to feel good about things.

Hopefully momentum is starting to shift.

Brian
Brian-Best of luck going forward and I think despite not being a cart fan your attitude is spot on for the good of the club. 9 more holes by Doak is sure going to sweeten the prospectus for potential new members if it happens. That is some exciting stuff.

Jud_T

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Re: Ballyneal in foreclosure
« Reply #502 on: March 17, 2012, 09:57:31 PM »
JC Jones had told me he was interested in joining

Jeez,  

Between this revelation and me actually rooting for Ohio State in the tournament for financial reasons, I may have to go to confession tomorrow...




Golf is a game. We play it. Somewhere along the way we took the fun out of it and charged a premium to be punished.- - Ron Sirak

Brian Potash

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Re: Ballyneal in foreclosure
« Reply #503 on: March 17, 2012, 10:28:55 PM »
Jud,

I come to this site to stop thinking about the (temporary) woes of my beloved Michigan.

Was strange to root for OSU over MSU 2 weeks ago.  Never again I hope.

Brian 96'

JC Jones

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Re: Ballyneal in foreclosure
« Reply #504 on: March 17, 2012, 10:29:52 PM »
JC Jones had told me he was interested in joining

Jeez,  

Between this revelation and me actually rooting for Ohio State in the tournament for financial reasons, I may have to go to confession tomorrow...


I think you going to confession would be the biggest of the 3.
I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

JC Jones

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Re: Ballyneal in foreclosure
« Reply #505 on: March 17, 2012, 10:30:29 PM »
Jud,

I come to this site to stop thinking about the (temporary) woes of my beloved Michigan.

Was strange to root for OSU over MSU 2 weeks ago.  Never again I hope.

Brian 96'

But I didn't think we were your rivals....
I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Brian Potash

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Re: Ballyneal in foreclosure
« Reply #506 on: March 17, 2012, 10:34:20 PM »
Jud,

I come to this site to stop thinking about the (temporary) woes of my beloved Michigan.

Was strange to root for OSU over MSU 2 weeks ago.  Never again I hope.

Brian 96'

But I didn't think we were your rivals....

JC,

Wrong message board for this battle.  We'll settle this in Holyoke.

Brian

Chris Johnston

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Re: Ballyneal in foreclosure
« Reply #507 on: March 17, 2012, 10:35:51 PM »
Brian and Jud - Look at the positives...at least you guys know who "Ohio" is now.

Brian Potash

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Re: Ballyneal in foreclosure
« Reply #508 on: March 17, 2012, 10:36:37 PM »
Brian and Jud - Look at the positives...at least you guys know who "Ohio" is now.

sound of me wincing

Chris Johnston

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Re: Ballyneal in foreclosure
« Reply #509 on: March 17, 2012, 10:38:19 PM »
Ohio = Referred to as "Harvard on the Hocking".

Stewart Naugler

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Re: Ballyneal in foreclosure
« Reply #510 on: March 17, 2012, 10:53:31 PM »
"At least you guys know who "OHIO" is now!

Classic!

GO GREEN!

Jim Tang

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Re: Ballyneal in foreclosure
« Reply #511 on: March 17, 2012, 11:09:16 PM »
Great news for all things Ballyneal!

Sam Morrow

Re: Ballyneal in foreclosure
« Reply #512 on: March 18, 2012, 12:24:27 AM »
"[ballyneal] members think Tom is God"

Don't you mean GCA'ers?

Sean Leary

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Re: Ballyneal in foreclosure
« Reply #513 on: March 18, 2012, 10:49:44 AM »
I thought one of main issues with carts was the impact on the fescue. I suppose if it is limited that may do the trick.

Chris Johnston

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Re: Ballyneal in foreclosure
« Reply #514 on: March 18, 2012, 10:54:09 AM »
I thought one of main issues with carts was the impact on the fescue. I suppose if it is limited that may do the trick.

May leave some tracks but won't affect play.

Good to see people supporting Mr. Curlander's efforts! 

Kalen Braley

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Re: Ballyneal in foreclosure
« Reply #515 on: March 18, 2012, 10:54:34 AM »
It seems like they could do something like, after you play your 1st 18 of the day, you can use a cart on your 2nd 18.  Or have cart use for those with a medical exemption.

jeffwarne

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Re: Ballyneal in foreclosure
« Reply #516 on: March 18, 2012, 10:59:17 AM »
I thought one of main issues with carts was the impact on the fescue. I suppose if it is limited that may do the trick.

May leave some tracks but won't affect play.

Good to see people supporting Mr. Curlander's efforts! 

Keeping the caddie off the back of a fully loaded cart  ::) ::)would help be big help to the fescue.........
those familiar with the cart/caddie ::) ::) process know what I mean
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

Brad Isaacs

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Re: Ballyneal in foreclosure
« Reply #517 on: March 18, 2012, 01:24:46 PM »
"[ballyneal] members think Tom is God"

Some interesting tidbits here. Limited cart play?

http://www.coloradoavidgolfer.com/news-and-press/ballyneal-s-fresh-start.aspx

Sounds good at least in the short term. Is limited cart play a non starter for some of the prior members that they are looking to bring back on board?

Isn't that picture of JC and Tom on the restaurant wall? I think I've seen that a number of times.

Anyone who has seen footprints  on the fescue in July, has serious reservations about carts on that surface in Holyoke, Co. They will have to change the grasses, and hence how it plays? "Get down with brown " will be gone.

Jim Colton

Re: Ballyneal in foreclosure
« Reply #518 on: March 18, 2012, 02:45:21 PM »
Article from the local Holyoke paper:

http://www.holyokeenterprise.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5014:ballyneal-foreclosure-sale-complete&catid=63:featured-articles


No reported changes on the golf operations:

-- "Payne said Curlander plans to operate Ballyneal as a private destination walking-only golf club, utilizing a caddie program."



There seems to be a disconnect on the cart thing relative to what the recent Holyoke Enterprise article said about the topic.

I think they've had limited cart availability the last few years, but only in unique circumstances and only when the turf can handle it. I think most of the time the carts stick to the maintenance paths which in many cases are way outside the holes. In some cases, it requires the golfer to walk and the caddie to meet up with you later on. Adam might have a better idea how it works.
« Last Edit: March 18, 2012, 02:49:07 PM by Jim Colton »

Tiger_Bernhardt

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Re: Ballyneal in foreclosure
« Reply #519 on: March 18, 2012, 03:12:36 PM »
PP
« Last Edit: March 18, 2012, 07:58:02 PM by Tiger_Bernhardt »

Adam Clayman

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Re: Ballyneal in foreclosure
« Reply #520 on: March 18, 2012, 04:00:09 PM »
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« Last Edit: March 18, 2012, 07:50:28 PM by Adam Clayman »
"It's unbelievable how much you don't know about the game you've been playing your whole life." - Mickey Mantle

Anthony Gray

Re: Ballyneal in foreclosure
« Reply #521 on: March 18, 2012, 08:30:25 PM »


 I tried to get into the GCA thing but couldn't so I gave the place the gufata.

  Anthony


Tim Bert

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Re: Ballyneal in foreclosure
« Reply #522 on: March 18, 2012, 08:39:50 PM »
Can someone explain the issue with the carts and the fescue grass?  Kingsley has fescue turf and allows carts and I have never noticed an issue. Is it a different type of fescue or the different climate or something else?  I always thought the walking only thing at Ballyneal was part of the vibe, along with no tee markers and no yardage markers. Never heard it was a turf issue before this thread.

Brett_Morrissy

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Re: Ballyneal in foreclosure
« Reply #523 on: March 18, 2012, 09:22:12 PM »
We have significant visual damage, (brown tracks) only on the really hot days in Summer, might only be a couple of spots, especially if getting everything irrigated the night before was challenged by other factors.

I am only guessing, but think that is over 38-40 + degrees C, over 100F.
@theflatsticker

Chris Johnston

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Re: Ballyneal in foreclosure
« Reply #524 on: March 18, 2012, 09:36:57 PM »
Same with Dismal River.  Cart tracks but playability isn't an issue.