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Steve Lapper

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Re: What's the best sub-6500 yard golf course in America?
« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2011, 06:29:36 AM »
Eastward Ho

Game over


Not Quite!!!

Myopia Hunt Club
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Tom ORourke

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Re: What's the best sub-6500 yard golf course in America?
« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2011, 08:11:17 AM »
There are good ones. There is a 6,250 Wayne Stiles and John Van Kleek course at the Cranwell resort in Lenox, Mass, built in 1926. Short in spots but plays longer. Not a great course but very sporty. And the answer to the question on the Aiken Golf Club is 6,048. And Bala in Fairmount Park in Philly is way under. It is a par 68 and is filled with wonderful short par 4s. there is length in the par 3s, There are 2 short 5s. Excellent course if you can wrap your head around a par 68. The course is under 6,000 yards. You might get bored playing it every day but it is a fun play.

Shane Wright

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Re: What's the best sub-6500 yard golf course in America?
« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2011, 08:45:29 AM »
White Bear Yacht Club hosted this year's Minnesota State Amateur Championship at 6,471 yards.   And I would say that it held it's own pretty well against a talented young group this year.

I have not seen Eastward Ho or Myopia but if they are better than WBYC then they would definitely be near the top of my list of courses I need to play.

WBYC is really special.

Mark McKeever

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Re: What's the best sub-6500 yard golf course in America?
« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2011, 08:56:41 AM »
Best MGA showers - Bayonne

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PCCraig

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Re: What's the best sub-6500 yard golf course in America?
« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2011, 10:50:00 AM »
So right now we have the following as the best sub-6500 yard golf courses in America:
Eastward Ho
Maidstone
Myopia Hunt Club
White Bear Yacht,    MN.
Palmetto Golf Club
Aiken
Montclair Golf Club 2nd and 3rd nines
Easthampton
Shuttle  Meadow, CT  by  Willie Park
Huntington, NY  by Devereux  Emmet
Bala in Fairmount Park

That’s it?
H.P.S.

Peter Ferlicca

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Re: What's the best sub-6500 yard golf course in America?
« Reply #30 on: November 07, 2011, 11:02:50 AM »
Broadmoor Golf Club- A Vernon Macan design, it says 6,186 yards on the website.  I thought we played a set at around 6,400 yards.  All I know it seemed like the longest 6,400 yards I have ever played.  A pretty good golf course.

Redlands Country Club- It is 6,276 yard Par 70.  This is a pretty stout short golf course also.  Norman MacBeth

Am also suprised no on has mentioned
Bel Air Country Club-  At 6482 yards, this has to be a top 5 course under 6,500 yards    George Thomas

Dan Kelly

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Re: What's the best sub-6500 yard golf course in America?
« Reply #31 on: November 07, 2011, 11:14:47 AM »
I have not t seen Eastward Ho or Myopia but if they are better than WBYC then they would definitely be near the top of my list of courses I need to play.

Well put, sir.
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Chris Roselle

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Re: What's the best sub-6500 yard golf course in America?
« Reply #32 on: November 07, 2011, 03:23:01 PM »
The Golf Association of Philadelphia has four courses that I think fit this description to a tee...
1. West Course at Merion GC (not sure of the total yardage but I know it's quite a bit less than 6,500)
2. Torresdale-Frankford CC (6,381 yards - Donald Ross)
3. Riverton CC (6,490 - Donald Ross)

PCCraig

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Re: What's the best sub-6500 yard golf course in America?
« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2011, 03:50:34 PM »
The Golf Association of Philadelphia has four courses that I think fit this description to a tee...
1. West Course at Merion GC (not sure of the total yardage but I know it's quite a bit less than 6,500)
2. Torresdale-Frankford CC (6,381 yards - Donald Ross)
3. Riverton CC (6,490 - Donald Ross)

Chris,

I could be wrong but I thought that the West Course at Merion was actually under 6000 yards?
H.P.S.

Howard Riefs

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Re: What's the best sub-6500 yard golf course in America?
« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2011, 03:59:11 PM »
Jeff wasn't too far off.

Wait ten years for this survey, and then they all will be - for nine holes. :D

http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,15271.0.html
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PCCraig

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Re: What's the best sub-6500 yard golf course in America?
« Reply #35 on: November 07, 2011, 04:02:00 PM »
Jeff wasn't too far off.

Wait ten years for this survey, and then they all will be - for nine holes. :D

http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,15271.0.html

Good find Howard. I searched but didn't find anything. It's an interesting comparison to this thread only 7 years later.
H.P.S.

Ed Brzezowski

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Re: What's the best sub-6500 yard golf course in America?
« Reply #36 on: November 07, 2011, 04:24:13 PM »
The Golf Association of Philadelphia has four courses that I think fit this description to a tee...
1. West Course at Merion GC (not sure of the total yardage but I know it's quite a bit less than 6,500)
2. Torresdale-Frankford CC (6,381 yards - Donald Ross)
3. Riverton CC (6,490 - Donald Ross)

Chris,

I could be wrong but I thought that the West Course at Merion was actually under 6000 yards?


Chris,
That's only three.
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Dan Grossman

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Re: What's the best sub-6500 yard golf course in America?
« Reply #37 on: November 07, 2011, 04:47:06 PM »
Pasatiempo seems to be 6,500 on the dot, so I guess it doesn't qualify for this discussion.

http://www.pasatiempo.com/web/golfinfo_scorecard.php

But, I've always thought of it as one of the hardest golf courses I have played for the yardage.

Howard Riefs

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Re: What's the best sub-6500 yard golf course in America?
« Reply #38 on: November 07, 2011, 04:56:05 PM »
Tobacco Road is 54 yards too long for this discussion.

However, it must be a contender for any "pound-for-pound" ranking on yardage/slope:

Slope:     150
Yardage: 6,554

http://www.tobaccoroadgolf.com/scorecard.html
"Golf combines two favorite American pastimes: Taking long walks and hitting things with a stick."  ~P.J. O'Rourke

Tim Martin

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Re: What's the best sub-6500 yard golf course in America?
« Reply #39 on: November 07, 2011, 05:20:12 PM »
St. Georges Golf & CC on Long island has to be in the discussion.

Brad Tufts

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Re: What's the best sub-6500 yard golf course in America?
« Reply #40 on: November 07, 2011, 08:15:31 PM »
Myopia is a touch over 6500...6539, not including a couple extra tees pushing it over 6600.

But Essex County Club is 6401!

I think ECC is stronger than Eastward Ho.
So I jump ship in Hong Kong....

Jamey Bryan

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Re: What's the best sub-6500 yard golf course in America?
« Reply #41 on: November 07, 2011, 08:31:05 PM »
I hate to be a complete homer, but I have to think that Camden Country Club deserves a mention in this list.

We do have a couple of weak holes, but:

1)  When we hosted a final stage qualifier for the US Am, we were the only site where even qualified.  At Camden, even was Medalist, +2 qualified.  (the USGA played the RR tracks as an obstruction rather than OB).

2)  The course has held up very well for 50+ years for the Carolinas Fourball.

In addition, it's a wonderful course to play every day.

I wouldn't say it's the BEST, but I think it deserves mention!

Jamey

Patrick_Mucci

Re: What's the best sub-6500 yard golf course in America?
« Reply #42 on: November 07, 2011, 10:11:57 PM »
(bias alert) i will nominate Montclair Golf Club 2nd and 3rd nines - 6500 exactly from the back


Keith,

I was going to nominate Montclair as well.

I believe that Bobby Jones called it the longest short course in America.

Preakness Hills would probably qualify as well, although recently, additional yardage was added.

Sam Morrow

Re: What's the best sub-6500 yard golf course in America?
« Reply #43 on: November 07, 2011, 10:55:07 PM »
I have a Merion scorecard from June where the East Course measure 6.482.

Chris Roselle

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Re: What's the best sub-6500 yard golf course in America?
« Reply #44 on: November 08, 2011, 07:45:31 AM »
The Golf Association of Philadelphia has four courses that I think fit this description to a tee...
1. West Course at Merion GC (not sure of the total yardage but I know it's quite a bit less than 6,500)
2. Torresdale-Frankford CC (6,381 yards - Donald Ross)
3. Riverton CC (6,490 - Donald Ross)

Chris,

I could be wrong but I thought that the West Course at Merion was actually under 6000 yards?


Chris,
That's only three.
Sorry Ed, I forgor to put Lu Lu CC in that list

Pete Blaisdell

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Re: What's the best sub-6500 yard golf course in America?
« Reply #45 on: November 08, 2011, 08:20:13 AM »
If I may, I would like to nominate my home town club--Keene CC --here in the Granite State-- Founded in 1899 with the total redo by Wayne Stiles in 1923( check out their website for a good walking tour) , it measures 6187 yds. from the tips, most play is from less than 6000, it will give you all you can handle.Francis Ouimet stated that it was the toughest " short" course he had ever seen. Small greens (fast) , elevation changes, tight fairways and one must be accurate. The 18th (288 yd. 4 par) , tight and downhill ,flanked by trees left and ob right and behind green is considered by many to be the most exciting finishing hole in New England. I know that's a bold statement but you would really have to see it to understand.

We conduct the Keene City Championship every July and the other course used is Bretwood and that plays at 7000 and has hosted numerous State Opens and USGA Quakifiers. The scoring average every year for the past 30 years has Keene CC playing a shot , shot and a half tougher than Bretwood. We use both courses every year. You must bring your A game to play Keene CC well.
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Lester George

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Re: What's the best sub-6500 yard golf course in America?
« Reply #46 on: November 08, 2011, 03:01:26 PM »

Essex County

Myopia

Cavalier G&YC @ 6,150

Providence GC (all bias aside) @ 6,530


Frank M

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Re: What's the best sub-6500 yard golf course in America?
« Reply #47 on: November 08, 2011, 03:11:52 PM »
Eastward Ho

Game over


Agreed.  

Mark

+1

No doubt in my mind.

I'll also add Essex County into the mix although I am willing to bet nobody would imagine it plays under 6500 yards from the back tees if they didn't know.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2011, 03:15:25 PM by Frank Mastroianni »

Ed Brzezowski

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Re: What's the best sub-6500 yard golf course in America?
« Reply #48 on: November 08, 2011, 05:26:52 PM »
1  Cherry Hills       4  389
2   Oakmont        4  340
3  Wannamoisett  3  135
4   Lahinch           5   475
5  Merion East      4   505
6 Morris County    4   319
7  Shinnecock      3   185
8 Pebble Beach    4    420
9 Yale                 3    235
out                    34    3002


10  Riveria          4      315
11 TPC Sawgrass   11   558
12 Pine Valley        4     337
13 Agusta              5    530
14  Ballybunion Old    3    133
15  NGLA                 4     417
16 Cypress Point       3    230
17  TOC                  4     495
18  Pine Valley          4   483

in   36  3498
par 70  6500 yards

Will rate for free
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Ed Brzezowski

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Re: What's the best sub-6500 yard golf course in America?
« Reply #49 on: November 08, 2011, 05:33:03 PM »
woops from thread
We have a pool and a pond, the pond would be good for you.