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Dónal Ó Ceallaigh

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Plans for new links course on Aran Islands in West of Ireland
« on: November 03, 2011, 05:55:59 PM »
http://www.independent.ie/sport/golf/inishmore-bucks-trend-with-plans-for-worldclass-links-2923048.html

"Discussions are ongoing with the relevant authorities and if all goes well with plans and permissions, the course will open in 2013."

It all sounds so easy ...  :D


Marty Bonnar

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Re: Plans for new links course on Aran Islands in West of Ireland
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2011, 07:18:49 PM »
How I love the land of my Fathers.
Put down the Bushmills and step away from the bar, boys...
Nice looking site, though.
F.
The White River runs dark through the heart of the Town,
Washed the people coal-black from the hole in the ground.

Wade Schueneman

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Re: Plans for new links course on Aran Islands in West of Ireland
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2011, 09:38:19 PM »
I hope it works out.  That will be a VERY windy course though.

jeffwarne

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Re: Plans for new links course on Aran Islands in West of Ireland
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2011, 10:15:53 PM »
Can't speak for the planning and permission, but........
the best time to start a business is during a recession.
Perhaps the planning gurus might give a pass to get someone working

 in good proximity to other great golf and Shannon airport.
here's hoping they don't get any "help"
be nice to see an Irish product of simple means and low cost basis that doesn't need a lot of frills and infrastructure
Hopefully Mel's from the Hackett school........
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

Tom_Doak

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Re: Plans for new links course on Aran Islands in West of Ireland
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2011, 10:19:24 PM »
Can't speak for the planning and permission, but........
the best time to start a business is during a recession.
Perhaps the planning gurus might give a pass to get someone working

 in good proximity to other great golf and Shannon airport.
here's hoping they don't get any "help"
be nice to see an Irish product of simple means and low cost basis that doesn't need a lot of frills and infrastructure
Hopefully Mel's from the Hackett school........

Jeff:

While I understand your sentiment, I don't understand recommending that someone building a new course should eschew professional help.  There are a lot of talented architects who would be glad to help for a small fee, which would likely more than pay for itself in construction $ saved.

Eddie Hackett himself was expert "help".

jeffwarne

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Re: Plans for new links course on Aran Islands in West of Ireland
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2011, 10:37:58 PM »
Can't speak for the planning and permission, but........
the best time to start a business is during a recession.
Perhaps the planning gurus might give a pass to get someone working

 in good proximity to other great golf and Shannon airport.
here's hoping they don't get any "help"
be nice to see an Irish product of simple means and low cost basis that doesn't need a lot of frills and infrastructure
Hopefully Mel's from the Hackett school........

Jeff:

While I understand your sentiment, I don't understand recommending that someone building a new course should eschew professional help.  There are a lot of talented architects who would be glad to help for a small fee, which would likely more than pay for itself in construction $ saved.

Eddie Hackett himself was expert "help".

Didn't mean that kind've help
wow, that was quick ;)

no doubt building smart would involve a talented architect
just not sure I want to see Troon or Kemper on the scene
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

Ally Mcintosh

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Re: Plans for new links course on Aran Islands in West of Ireland
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2011, 04:42:48 AM »
Mel Flanagan has been involved in at least a few designs, his best known being Rathcore in County Meath...

I've no idea how they will get on with the planning authorities, most of whom aren't looking too kindly on golf at the moment regardless of the reccession... Ireland lost the run of itself with the oversized and over specified developments in the 90's and 00's and so unfortunately golf has a worse name than it ever did....

That aside, the problem may be as much public safety as environmental.... The Aran Islands are popular tourist destinations and that routing has about four holes crossing beaches... Spectacular I'm sure if it all goes through...
« Last Edit: November 04, 2011, 04:44:55 AM by Ally Mcintosh »

Shane Wright

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Re: Plans for new links course on Aran Islands in West of Ireland
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2011, 09:46:37 AM »
Donal, thank you for sharing this. 

I will be back in Ireland in 2013.  This looks to be a really cool site assuming it can happen.   Hopefully they get some experienced advice on the layout.  I know how tempting it is to try and do it yourself but the long term effect of having some help could be more beneficial. 

Question for the locals - What is the best way to travel to the Aran Islands and how long does it take from say Shannon Airport? 


Jim Eder

Re: Plans for new links course on Aran Islands in West of Ireland
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2011, 10:11:13 AM »
I am hoping it happens, it could be pretty wonderful if it does happen.  I am sure it will be tough but I am hoping..............

Does anyone have any new info on the course that Faldo was planning to do at Bartra Island?

Brett Hochstein

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Re: Plans for new links course on Aran Islands in West of Ireland
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2011, 11:52:28 AM »
Found it on google maps.  Looks like a pretty awesome site.  Hope it both happens and sustains itself.  One tip though: wide fairways/playable roughs.  Nothing to stop the wind for thousands of miles out there.
"From now on, ask yourself, after every round, if you have more energy than before you began.  'Tis much more important than the score, Michael, much more important than the score."     --John Stark - 'To the Linksland'

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Ken Kearney

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Re: Plans for new links course on Aran Islands in West of Ireland
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2011, 01:00:27 PM »
Re: Bartra
Jim,
The project is shelved for now, as best as I know. The site has environmental sentitivities (same snail they had at Doonbeg - Vertigo Angustior, being just one) that includes moving / evolving primary sand dunes.
I did an environmental college assignment on this site. Funny thing is, it isnt that good a "golfing" site, even if it does get built.
Of course, access is a problem also. Although I remember some people suggesting that golfers will be thrilled with the novelty ferry ride to Bartra... doubt it !! I nearly got savaged by a huge seal when I landed on shore one day. That's not pretty.. a large Irish guy being chased by a very large , and thankfully slower than me, seal..


KK

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