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Anthony Gray

Cruden Bay and Topos
« on: September 22, 2011, 04:00:01 PM »


  Was it just discovered? Did Old Tom Morris walk the land or did he have topos? Did someone just see the land from the train while visiting the hotel?

  Anthony



 

J Sadowsky

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Re: Cruden Bay and Topos
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2011, 04:50:24 PM »
Uh oh....

Jon Wiggett

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Re: Cruden Bay and Topos
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2011, 06:46:14 PM »
No Anthony,

God looked out across this piece of land and declared 'Tom Morris (old) created this land for a golf course'. Or was it the other way round ::)

Melvyn Morrow

Re: Cruden Bay and Topos
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2011, 09:03:23 PM »
Anthony

Old Tom walked the land in 1894, 6 years before the course opened. By 1895 the old club and cousre was closed with the new hotel located on the old 9 hole course. By 1895 a course was in place but changes made pre 1898 to allow for the St Olafs 9 hole course.

Melvyn

Brian_Ewen

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Re: Cruden Bay and Topos
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2011, 07:43:04 AM »
Did someone just see the land from the train while visiting the hotel?

 ::)

Anthony Gray

Re: Cruden Bay and Topos
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2011, 09:43:37 AM »
Did someone just see the land from the train while visiting the hotel?

 ::)


  You must be from Philly Brian.

  Anthony

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Melvyn Morrow

Re: Cruden Bay and Topos
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2011, 12:19:47 PM »


Remember in 1894 there was no train and no train service, so I am advised, it was not there until the following year 1895  when work started on the station right on to of the old 9 hole course,

Melvyn

Anthony, think Old Tom saw the land from the plane ;)

Chris DeNigris

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Re: Cruden Bay and Topos
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2011, 04:14:59 PM »
Okay...in the early spring of 1894 (I know this because the trees were bare) Old Tom and Bram Stoker were riding in a stagecoach with an unidentified Hungarian or possibly Romanian gentleman...headed to the Slains Castle Resort and Yacht Club for a wicked weekend getaway with their good bud (and noted playboy) the Earl of Erroll....

Alister Matheson

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Re: Cruden Bay and Topos
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2011, 04:40:22 PM »
Okay...in the early spring of 1894 (I know this because the trees were bare) Old Tom and Bram Stoker were riding in a stagecoach with an unidentified Hungarian or possibly Romanian gentleman...headed to the Slains Castle Resort and Yacht Club for a wicked weekend getaway with their good bud (and noted playboy) the Earl of Erroll....

And 20 years later the first ever flight across the North Sea to Norway was Launched from the Beach at Cruden Bay !
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Melvyn Morrow

Re: Cruden Bay and Topos
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2011, 05:12:46 PM »


Port Erroll (Cruden Bay by its official name) was one of the first North Sea (back in those days the North Sea was known as German Ocean) oil towns, hence the trains, hotel and golf course for a game after working all day on the oil rigs.

The first rush of oil dried up and they lost revenue from North Sea Oil so using the facilities for the oil business they opened up the place for golfing holidays.

Someone should write a book on Cruden Bay and its contributions to the import of North Sea Oil, it has as much validity as the vampires stories.

Melvyn


Anthony Gray

Re: Cruden Bay and Topos
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2011, 10:08:11 PM »
  The course was improved after Simpson return from his trip to the US which included a long stay at Merion.  that is were the short par 4s originated.

Niall C

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Re: Cruden Bay and Topos
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2011, 06:26:18 AM »
  The course was improved after Simpson return from his trip to the US which included a long stay at Merion.  that is were the short par 4s originated.

Anthony

I'd be very interested to hear more, and I'm not just saying that because I want to nit-pick. Firstly can you tell me about Simpsons trip to the US, when was it, how long and what did he do. Secondly, what info do you have on what Simpson did at CB and when.

Thanks

Niall

ps. what holes are you referring to as the short par 4's ?

Brian_Ewen

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Re: Cruden Bay and Topos
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2011, 07:16:36 AM »
 ::)   ::)

Frank Pont

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Re: Cruden Bay and Topos
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2011, 07:56:37 AM »
Also very interested in his US trip, when it was, and why he never wrote about it in any of his books/articles later?

Anthony Gray

Re: Cruden Bay and Topos
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2011, 05:04:23 PM »
     I will try to locate the articles. The land switch made it possible to extend the course up the hill for the tenth hole and taking the routing to the south.                                                                                                                                 

RSLivingston_III

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Re: Cruden Bay and Topos
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2011, 07:27:06 PM »
I think I remember reading he brought a smart phone from the US and used the GPS function to plot his own topos...
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