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Marty Bonnar

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In praise of trees on golf courses
« on: September 20, 2011, 03:53:27 PM »
Acer platanoides 'Crimson King':



Niiiiiiiiiiiiice.

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Garland Bayley

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Re: In praise of trees on golf courses
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2011, 04:07:16 PM »
Martin,

I must respectively disagree. I don't like the planting, nor the setting in that picture.
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Marty Bonnar

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Re: In praise of trees on golf courses
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2011, 04:09:16 PM »
Them's gorgeous, them are.
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Melvyn Morrow

Re: In praise of trees on golf courses
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2011, 05:31:45 PM »

Trees  -  they drink water , pulling water out of the soil, they grow up and interfere with the original design, they attract birds and additional wildlife that seem to find the fairways  a great place to sunbath while getting a good all round visibility for any potential predator.  Not forgetting the annual shedding of leaves and work to tidy up the ground.

Then on the plus side they sometimes look good.

Why would any Designer want to inflect such a degree of on-going course maintenance on to the club and their poor old Green Keepers.

We must also not forget that these trees do at times have a tendency of moving or jumping out stopping one’s ball in full flight straight to the Pin. I for one have encountered this strange behavioural patter caused by quite a few species of trees. So no I am not in favour of any trees and certainly not located in or near the rough. I think many a tree has taken a leaf out of Lord of the Rings (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN6Ed8rBthU )

So Martin, I regret I cannot agree with you

Melvyn

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Marty Bonnar

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Re: In praise of trees on golf courses
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2011, 05:37:48 PM »
Yeah,
I wonder what kind of Eedjit of a designer would have created this course? :-X

Trust me, this location will NEVER have any drought problems.
I ADORE birds and wildlife on golf courses.

I do agree that they can be utter bar stewards at catching balls!
 ;D
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Charlie Goerges

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Re: In praise of trees on golf courses
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2011, 11:05:52 PM »
We call those the "three sisters".

I've always contemplated an "interaction" with three sisters. Anything that brings up such happy thoughts deserves much Kudos.
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Mike McGuire

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Re: In praise of trees on golf courses
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2011, 12:03:19 AM »
Those maples are so so dense not much grass is growing under them. One of the worst trees you could PLANT.
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Sean_A

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Re: In praise of trees on golf courses
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2011, 02:17:51 AM »
FBD

Sorry, I don't like em'.  Wrong place.

Ciao
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Philippe Binette

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Re: In praise of trees on golf courses
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2011, 09:58:06 AM »
chainsaw please
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mike_malone

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Re: In praise of trees on golf courses
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2011, 10:05:58 AM »
 Trees can take the place of other hazards that might not exist like hills or streams. The key is their placement. I'll go with Flynn's formula---out of play, provide a backdrop, separate holes, shade on a hot day. If they are on the land before building the course then using them for doglegs is good.
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Kalen Braley

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Re: In praise of trees on golf courses
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2011, 10:15:39 AM »
Quote from: Martin Glynn Bonnar on September 20, 2011, 04:09:16 PM
Them's gorgeous, them are.

This is nuts, but I think me and Marty are long lost brothers or sumfin'

The longer I look at that picture, the more I like it.  There is a certain symetrical aspect going on between those trees and the bunkers that hits the right notes!!  Almost like 3 Greek gods keeping watch over the weary golfer as he navigates the course!!

It would be lesser of a hole to take the chainsaw to em....
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Terry Lavin

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Re: In praise of trees on golf courses
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2011, 10:36:49 AM »
To paraphrase Robert Duvall in "Apocalypse Now", "I love the smell of sawdust in the morning.  It smells like victory!"
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Kalen Braley

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Re: In praise of trees on golf courses
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2011, 10:43:33 AM »
Terry,

On behalf of Martin and myself....how dare you suggest such a thing!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roFB7bGCAgc&feature=related
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Garland Bayley

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Re: In praise of trees on golf courses
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2011, 12:10:33 PM »
Quote from: Kalen Braley on September 21, 2011, 10:15:39 AM
Quote from: Martin Glynn Bonnar on September 20, 2011, 04:09:16 PM
Them's gorgeous, them are.

This is nuts, but I think me and Marty are long lost brothers or sumfin'

...

It's known as FB.

You don't happen to D do you?

I suggest you both take up marathoning or something.
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Marty Bonnar

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Re: In praise of trees on golf courses
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2011, 05:24:30 PM »
Quote from: Melvyn Hunter Morrow on September 20, 2011, 05:31:45 PM



Why would any Designer want to inflect such a degree of on-going course maintenance on to the club and their poor old Green Keepers.




One Old Tom Morris in this case... :o

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Melvyn Morrow

Re: In praise of trees on golf courses
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2011, 06:04:57 PM »


Martin

When were these trees planted and when did Old Tom go the Heavenly 19th Hole
 ::)
Melvyn
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Marty Bonnar

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Re: In praise of trees on golf courses
« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2011, 06:08:04 PM »
Just funnin' with ya!!!
 ;)
best,
me.
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Michael George

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Re: In praise of trees on golf courses
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2011, 06:09:59 PM »

My favorite tree on any golf course - #3 at Old MacDonald - the dead one.
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Bill_McBride

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Re: In praise of trees on golf courses
« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2011, 06:14:18 PM »
Quote from: Charlie Goerges on September 20, 2011, 11:05:52 PM
We call those the "three sisters".

I've always contemplated an "interaction" with three sisters. Anything that brings up such happy thoughts deserves much Kudos.

I fondly remember the Budda Budda sisters in Hong Kong's Wanchai district eons ago, but there were only two.
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Melvyn Morrow

Re: In praise of trees on golf courses
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2011, 06:18:33 PM »
Martin

I have been told that Old Tom was not that keen on trees, they had a tendency to grow and get in the way and may in time affect the approach to the pin irrespective of the design intention. Can't have trees dictating the future hazards on a course, it’s just not the done thing - free hazard with potential local mobility, enough to frustrate any Green Keeper not to mention the Designer if he can’t charge for the on-going design changes. 8)

Melvyn
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