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"Should be muted?" That sounds a lot like suppressing discussion of architecture. Are you suggesting "shouting down" opinions of people who disagree with you? That's the problem with this board that frequently gives it a black eye - not people pointing out that a certain architect is bland, flavorless or says less in 8,000 yards than Dev Emmet cold in 6,250.Phil Mickelson - one of the friendliest quotes in the room - has never been outspoken against a course or an architect ever before other than Rees. When he complains, you know there is a legit problem. As I pointed out - Rees knows length and water. He believes a par-5 must require 3 shots although the best par-5s shoot that down every day. Royal Melbourne will stand in stark contrast to the courses we got in America this year. Oakmont, OHCC, Olympic, and WFW have between them 2 water hazards, and they defend par as well or better because of great greens. Rees is one of the LEAST creative at designing greens. he eliminates fairway undulations, he rarely if ever designs false fronts. In short, Rees is watching Doak and CC and Hanse and Phillips and even his own brither run past hom like he's standing still - which his architecture has for years. You don't sdee Rees's original designs hosting tournaments, do you?Jay,There is discussion and then there is derision, dismissal of whatever good work he might have done and whether you enjoyed the day on his golf course. From some of the stuff I see on here it would seem that you feel playing golf on his courses is rather like being water-boarded."You write " Rees is one of the LEAST creative at designing greens. He eliminates fairway undulations, he rarely if ever designs false fronts. " The dunes has green complexes that astounded Gib Papazian and he does have some experience in this field. Perhaps you should get out more and see some fairway undulations . The front of the fourth green on the Dunes is quite the most subtle one I have seen in an age.Have you played Nantucket?Bob