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Emile Bonfiglio

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Wood Tees vs Plastic/Eco
« on: September 09, 2011, 01:24:09 PM »
Will we see the day when wood tees are extinct and plastic tee reign supreme? I've been playing plastic tees for the last year and love them. I also feel they leave the tee box in better condition. I would think from a maintenance standpoint they would be more desirable.
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Peter Sayegh

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Re: Wood Tees vs Plastic/Eco
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2011, 01:58:01 PM »
I can't remember the last time I used a wood tee. Two reasons that they'll stick around for some time:
1. You'll find the traditionalists balking at them. Probably the same crowd that still insists on wearing metal spikes.
2. Of the dwindling number of courses still offering free tees, I've never seen plastic ones offered pro bono.
That covers both ends of the spectrum-the dyed-in-the-wool player and the infrequent golfer who hasn't been through his bag in six months and having tees beforehand is less important than remembering his shoes and stocking the cooler.

Garland Bayley

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Re: Wood Tees vs Plastic/Eco
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2011, 02:20:34 PM »
Will we see the day when wood tees are extinct and plastic tee reign supreme? I've been playing plastic tees for the last year and love them. I also feel they leave the tee box in better condition. I would think from a maintenance standpoint they would be more desirable.

Leave a wood tee where you live and it will return to dirt. Leave a plastic tee, and you leave a lifetime legacy.
Wood is renewable, plastic not.
Why are you looking for wood to go away?
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Jim Franklin

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Re: Wood Tees vs Plastic/Eco
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2011, 02:41:58 PM »
I use the biodegradable tees. Plus, our clubs gives them out for free. They fly out of the ground so you lose them a lot.
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Duncan Cheslett

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Re: Wood Tees vs Plastic/Eco
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2011, 03:37:47 AM »
I can't remember the last time I used a wood tee. Two reasons that they'll stick around for some time:
1. You'll find the traditionalists balking at them. Probably the same crowd that still insists on wearing metal spikes.

Most people around here use the plastic graduated tees. They certainly take the guess-work out of setting the right tee height.



Personally, I'd prefer it if I could get graduated wood tees but I've never seen them.

As for metal spikes, anyone not using them round these parts in anything other than the height of summer is soon going to get a very wet backside! I had my metal spikes put in this week..

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Carl Rogers

Re: Wood Tees vs Plastic/Eco
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2011, 05:21:31 PM »
Environmentally I think they are a wash ... trees are renewable and degrade, but in my experience plastic tees last longer and are a petroleum by-product.  Are there web sites to order bio-degradable tees?  I rarely see them.

Carl Johnson

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Re: Wood Tees vs Plastic/Eco
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2011, 06:52:59 PM »
Environmentally I think they are a wash ... trees are renewable and degrade, but in my experience plastic tees last longer and are a petroleum by-product.  Are there web sites to order bio-degradable tees?  I rarely see them.

One of a number: http://www.fertiletee.com/

Dan Kelly

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Re: Wood Tees vs Plastic/Eco
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2011, 07:06:20 PM »
Personally, I'd prefer it if I could get graduated wood tees but I've never seen them.

I have some. Cf. http://www.golfsmith.com/products/293558/ZTech/3_1/4
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Mark Johnson

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Re: Wood Tees vs Plastic/Eco
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2011, 07:16:19 PM »
plastic tees bend which is why i dont use them

Marty Bonnar

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Re: Wood Tees vs Plastic/Eco
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2011, 07:22:21 PM »
Wood. Preferably unvarnished/unpainted. Just the virgin timber, baby.
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Dan Kelly

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Re: Wood Tees vs Plastic/Eco
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2011, 09:37:18 PM »
plastic tees bend which is why i dont use them

I've found that plastic tees stay nice and straight, unless you put one of those fluorescent-yellow golf balls on them.

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Greg Clark

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Re: Wood Tees vs Plastic/Eco
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2011, 12:27:19 PM »
plastic tees bend which is why i dont use them

Yep.  If the ground is hard, it is a royal pain in the ass to use a plastic tee.

Carl Rogers

Re: Wood Tees vs Plastic/Eco
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2011, 01:05:26 PM »
Environmentally I think they are a wash ... trees are renewable and degrade, but in my experience plastic tees last longer and are a petroleum by-product.  Are there web sites to order bio-degradable tees?  I rarely see them.
One of a number: http://www.fertiletee.com/
On the site referenced, they are made out of fertilizer ..... further review needed ... sounds like environmental another trade off??

archie_struthers

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Re: Wood Tees vs Plastic/Eco
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2011, 02:03:49 PM »
 ??? ::) ???


How could plastic ever be good....or environmentally sensitive ????...plus they chew up the mower blades ...an all around no brainer not to use them!

Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: Wood Tees vs Plastic/Eco
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2019, 02:43:54 PM »



England's oldest golf course has become the first to ban plastic tees over fears they are being eaten by wildlife.
The Royal North Devon Golf Club, near Bideford, took the decision at a recent committee meeting to only allow wooden tees
It said "plastic tees are more likely to harm the birds and animals we share our wonderful course with"


Read more...




https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/11/27/englands-oldest-golf-course-first-ban-plastic-tees-fears-eaten/
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William_G

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Re: Wood Tees vs Plastic/Eco
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2019, 02:51:19 PM »
interesting


broken tees are TRASH whether wood or plastic


leave no trace would be a good policy as well
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Erik J. Barzeski

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Re: Wood Tees vs Plastic/Eco
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2019, 03:22:26 PM »
2. Of the dwindling number of courses still offering free tees, I've never seen plastic ones offered pro bono.
That covers both ends of the spectrum-the dyed-in-the-wool player and the infrequent golfer who hasn't been through his bag in six months and having tees beforehand is less important than remembering his shoes and stocking the cooler.
A few of the private clubs here in Erie, PA offer plastic ones free. One of them (Lawrence Park GC), I believe, has a member who owns a plastic plant (Erie has a good number of plastics manufacturers - bottle tops, pen caps, etc.), and I think he donates them or gets a tiny bit off his membership or something for them.

I use plastic tees, but I still prefer broken wooden tees on the par threes or when I'm hitting less than driver on other holes. I like the tradition of wooden tees… but many of the "plastic" tees are biodegradable (I believe - some of the "plastic" is actually a corn starch or something, I think), and they do sell those short tees in plastic, too… but I still kinda hold out hope for the wooden tee.

I wonder which is lower impact on the environment. Wooden tees are obviously made from trees, but plastic tees might be possibly made from scrap materials, corn starch, etc. If they're not biodegradable, then that's a strike against them.


P.S. https://evolvegolf.com/epoch/ says their tees eliminate tee litter (they don't break), that they're environmentally friendly because they're made from 70% post-consumer materials, and that they require 30% less force to cut through than a wooden tee (for mowers). I generally use…
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Carl Rogers

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Re: Wood Tees vs Plastic/Eco
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2019, 05:01:26 PM »

[size=78%]I have at least 100 tees that I picked up off the course through the years ..... recycling.[/size]
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Rob Marshall

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Re: Wood Tees vs Plastic/Eco
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2019, 05:17:39 PM »
Ive used plastic tees for years. I carry one short one and one long one. The ones I use don’t bend. I haven’t seen corn tees in years. I think they were a fad. The corn tees my club carried for a while bent.
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Tom_Doak

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Re: Wood Tees vs Plastic/Eco
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2019, 05:22:55 PM »
??? ::) ???


How could plastic ever be good....or environmentally sensitive ??? ?...plus they chew up the mower blades ...an all around no brainer not to use them!


All broken tees chew up the mower blades.  The most important thing is for you to pick up and re-use your tees as much as you can, instead of leaving them littered all over.  I would be willing to wager that people who use plastic tees are better at re-using them, because they don't carry so many.


If people DO insist on using wooden tees, they should use a bright color they can find easily so they don't leave scraps.

Erik J. Barzeski

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Re: Wood Tees vs Plastic/Eco
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2019, 05:31:59 PM »
All broken tees chew up the mower blades.  The most important thing is for you to pick up and re-use your tees as much as you can, instead of leaving them littered all over.  I would be willing to wager that people who use plastic tees are better at re-using them, because they don't carry so many.
Is anyone here aware of any attachment or something to the front of a tee box mower that bushes tees out of the way, or brushes them up, or anything like that?
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Sean_A

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Re: Wood Tees vs Plastic/Eco
« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2019, 06:30:23 PM »
I don't have any memory of plastic tees with writing on them. Maybe this is why wood remains so popular?

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Tim Martin

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Re: Wood Tees vs Plastic/Eco
« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2019, 06:51:32 PM »
I like plastic because they last considerably longer. I try not to leave them around for mowers.

Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Wood Tees vs Plastic/Eco
« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2019, 10:10:01 PM »
Wood in white, as long as they are adjustable (you know, the ones that get shorter the farther you push them into the ground).
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Bernie Bell

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Re: Wood Tees vs Plastic/Eco
« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2019, 10:42:19 PM »

"How could plastic ever be good....or environmentally sensitive?."


In the same way that a reusable plastic grocery sack that lasts x? years is better than one-and-done paper sacks.