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Keith Doleshel

Furnace Creek in Death Valley, Calif
« on: August 21, 2011, 10:51:01 PM »
I came across an interesting article on espn.com about Furnace Creek Golf Course in Death Valley.  The article mentioned little in the way of architecture, but was a fun read nonetheless.  Was wonder if anyone on here has played the golf course during the summer.  I know the list has to be short, but figure that maybe someone has taken up the challenge of playing in the oppressive heat. 

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/story/_/id/6831277/furnace-creek-golf-course-death-valley-california

astavrides

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Re: Furnace Creek in Death Valley, Calif
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2011, 11:39:33 PM »
i played there once in november, not in summer.  cant be that much hotter than palm springs though.

Joe_Tucholski

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Re: Furnace Creek in Death Valley, Calif
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2011, 12:29:37 AM »
I played in March.  The article lists this as the best time of year to play and you can't distinguish it from other resort courses...not sure what resorts they are talking about.  

I had fun out there because of the uniqueness of playing in death valley but that was all it has going for it.  I have never been on a course with greens that were as varied in speed, texture and firmness.  The 10th green was soggy, soft and green while other holes were completely dried out, firm and not nearly as slow.  I can't imagine how difficult it is trying to keep the course open.  It also has one of my least favorite holes.  I think it was the 17th hole which is a shorter par 4.  It has palm trees on the right off the tee and I just hit a fade, just missed hitting palm trees and was still blocked out on my approach by a tree that was just short of the green.  The below image is the view you will get if you hit a straight tee shot that just misses the palm trees.



The low altitude also hurts the ego a little (inverse of playing in CO).

The thing I wasn't prepared for in Death Valley was the wind in the afternoon.  We made our trip to ride our bicycles and found ourselves going downhill but into the wind at 10 mph where we often travel downhills at 40mph.
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Wayne Freeman

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Re: Furnace Creek in Death Valley, Calif
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2011, 01:04:16 AM »
One year when we had a lot of rain in SoCal,  I decided to go see the desert flowers which were supposed to be unusually
  plentiful.  It certainly was beautiful.  I played the golf course just for the novelty .. ...  I don't think I'd make
  a special trip to play.

Joe Bausch

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Re: Furnace Creek in Death Valley, Calif
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2011, 04:42:56 AM »
One year when we had a lot of rain in SoCal,  I decided to go see the desert flowers which were supposed to be unusually
  plentiful.  It certainly was beautiful.  I played the golf course just for the novelty .. ...  I don't think I'd make
  a special trip to play.

Will echo what Wayne said above.  Played there in a January about 10 years ago.  Beautiful part of the country, not a memorable golf course.

I did have an encounter with nature (a red-tailed hawk, a great horned owl, and a duck) that was totally incredible but was at dusk and not captured on film or video.

Here is what I posted on this encounter a few years back:

I was playing late in the afternoon and the course had a good amount of waterfowl, mostly American Coots.  While walking down the 9th fairway about 15 minutes before sunset a red-tail hawk comes swooping down to land with a coot still alive in its talons.  It landed no more than 50 feet from me.  It took the hawk a few minutes to kill the duck, but eventually he did.  I waited around for a few seconds, then decided to finish the hole as it was getting dark.  Well, the next hole looked awfully nice, so I decided to play it, then come back around and play #9 again before quitting.

I wondered as I approached #9 again if the hawk had made a quick pile of feathers out of the duck and was gone.  Well, was I in for a surprise. As I walked over to the general area, I could see the bird was no longer in the same place, and had moved over several yards by some trees at the edge of the fairway.  But as I got closer it seemed like it was now two very large birds together, and I naively thought maybe it was a pair of red-tails sharing the feast.  Well, as I got closer, I could see these two birds weren't both eating, but were in a standoff over who got the dinner.  They were 'beak to beak', perhaps no more than 1 foot separating them, both with their wings spread wide!  The bird facing me was the red-tail, and he no longer had the bird in his talons.  I couldn't quite tell at first what the other bird was as it had its back to me.  It was huge, with a swing span as big as the hawk.  As I got maybe 30 feet away, the unknown bird was no longer unknown as my presence got its attention:  it turned its head 180 degrees to look at me quickly.  It was a great horned owl!

The owl really seemed quite nervous by my presence and he didn't know what to do.  Well, the two jostled on the ground one or twice, but the owl kept possession of the coot.  Then the owl tried to make a run for it and fly off.  He didn't get too far off the ground and the hawk took flight and sort of bullied him back to the ground.  After another quick wrestling match, with the hawk getting two points for an effective takedown on my scorecard, the owl flew off again.  It was struggling hard, flying low along the tree line to carry the duck.  Then the red-tail pulled a move that I still don't know how it happened: it took off flying right at the owl, and mid-flight somehow took the coot right out of the owl's possession.  The owl gave up at that point and flew away.  The red-tail wasted no time then to start dinner.  And I left the course with one of my more exciting encounters with nature.
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Adam Clayman

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Re: Furnace Creek in Death Valley, Calif
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2011, 08:15:01 AM »
Back when I played Pacific Grove, one of our members was a very good 80 year old fellow, Kenny Roberts. Kenny used to tell a story about his dad, who was Jones' construction manager for Furnace Creek. He recalled that they hired a lot of local Indians for the job. Implying to me it was all hand built with horses and crude earth moving equipment.
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Furnace Creek in Death Valley, Calif
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2011, 09:12:11 AM »
An article about just that from a good friend of mine.

http://www.travelandleisure.com/articles/golf-scorecards-from-the-edge
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Jon Spaulding

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Re: Furnace Creek in Death Valley, Calif
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2011, 12:38:23 AM »
An article about just that from a good friend of mine.

http://www.travelandleisure.com/articles/golf-scorecards-from-the-edge

That's a great article.

On a related note, in the "what's the deal with California" file......Trona is the location of the only remaining production gold mine in the state.

The salt flats out there are something to be seen.
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Tim Leahy

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Re: Furnace Creek in Death Valley, Calif
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2011, 01:27:09 PM »
Great story, what we golfers won't endure!
Reminds of a bunch of guys at the Palm Springs Kings Putter tourney.
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