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Eric Smith

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Re: Long Shadow closed and for sale
« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2011, 10:42:00 AM »
What a great golf course. It's been too long since I've been to Long Shadow.

Mike,

I wish you and your group all the best with this endeavor.
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Jeff_Brauer

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Re: Long Shadow closed and for sale
« Reply #26 on: August 08, 2011, 10:50:08 AM »
Mike,

Good luck.  I think you will do well and it sure is too good a course to let close.  Hope you got it at a great price!

There are not too many courses that I say "Gawd, I want to play this place" on the entry drive.  The first hole at Longshadow was one of those holes that made me say that.  On par with the first at Crystal Downs and a few others that let you know you are at someplace pretty special.
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Tom_Doak

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Re: Long Shadow closed and for sale
« Reply #27 on: August 08, 2011, 04:32:16 PM »
Mike's only problem will be that everyone is his buddy and will expect to play for free.  I hope he implements a good rule for panelists!

I would buy any one of my own courses for the sale price rumored in this deal.
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Mike_Young

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Re: Long Shadow closed and for sale
« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2011, 05:41:18 PM »
Jeff,
Thanks for the comments.  As fast as things were moving in the 90's and early 2000's things could really get ahead of themselves with subdivision sections being surveyed and engineering going on in a few different places on a large property.  You know what I mean.  You never know if a green is in a backyard or a swimming pool. ;D ;D   Get my drift?

Tom,

We might develop some international standards for raters and panelists .  I got some really good ideas. 
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A.G._Crockett

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Re: Long Shadow closed and for sale
« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2011, 06:16:24 PM »
Quote from: Tim Gavrich on August 08, 2011, 09:53:32 AM
Really good to hear that Longshadow is going to make it after all.  My father and I were lucky to have played the front nine while the back was being built and ever since, I've hoped to get back there to see all 18.  I'm glad that I will eventually be able to do so.

Tim,
Others may, of course, disagree but as good as the front is, I think you will like the back 9 even better.
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RJ_Daley

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Re: Long Shadow closed and for sale
« Reply #30 on: August 08, 2011, 11:40:49 PM »
Reading Mike's cryptic posts, I'm beginning to think we are in for some real interesting case study in the annals of GC development, and re-development.  Can Charlie work the '20 questions' answer, "annals" in his after dinner joke regarding the 20 Q's contest between the golf teams of GT and UGA?  ;D  ;)
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Jeff_Brauer

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Re: Long Shadow closed and for sale
« Reply #31 on: August 09, 2011, 12:45:02 PM »
Mike,

I think I get your drift. More the other way, when I go back to my housing courses and find the engineers have put septic fields or detention basins right in critical areas of my golf course without my knowledge. 

A potential issue Longshadow (and others) may face is if they were planned for large lots, but the market now dictates patio homes or smaller lots.  Having a lot line 150' from the fw CL is a lot different with a 200 foot lot than it is when the actual house, townhouse, or apt. is five foot beyond the property line!
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