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Kalen Braley

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Re: Should majors in the U.S. not be played in June, July, or August?
« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2011, 11:21:23 PM »


The USGA and the PGA thinks pretty clearly on these issues, but, since you think their reasoning is flawed and you know more than they do, name the time of year other than the summer and site for your next 10 US Opens and PGA Championships

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Fine,

I'll do that when you come up with 20 for the Northeast, with no repeats...and they must all be viable in the Summer!!

Patrick_Mucci

Re: Should majors in the U.S. not be played in June, July, or August?
« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2011, 11:23:04 PM »
Pat,

I'd say I'm much more firmly rooted in reality based solely on how many of your threads start, "today at NGLA with a friend".  :)

And as someone from a area of the nation that actually knows what good college football is, I can tell you that I could pull myself away from SEC football to watch some October golf at Shinnecock.

Ben,

Since you're so firmly rooted in reality then I'm sure that you're aware that many, if not most courses in the NE punch their greens in October.

And, since you're so firmly rooted in October, take a look at the ratings for golf versus college and NFL football in October.

The reality is ..... $$$$$



Ben Sims

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Re: Should majors in the U.S. not be played in June, July, or August?
« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2011, 11:29:40 PM »
Pat,

I'd say I'm much more firmly rooted in reality based solely on how many of your threads start, "today at NGLA with a friend".  :)

And as someone from a area of the nation that actually knows what good college football is, I can tell you that I could pull myself away from SEC football to watch some October golf at Shinnecock.

Ben,

Since you're so firmly rooted in reality then I'm sure that you're aware that many, if not most courses in the NE punch their greens in October.

And, since you're so firmly rooted in October, take a look at the ratings for golf versus college and NFL football in October.

The reality is ..... $$$$$



I'd forgotten about the aeration issue in the fall with cool season grasses.  However, that is when the bent and poa is doing very well up there.  Hence why Pine Valley's greens were in great shape only 13 days after aeration when I was there last October.   It could be worked around.

Agreed on the ratings.  I think NASCAR even beats the PGA tour that time of year.

Kalen Braley

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Re: Should majors in the U.S. not be played in June, July, or August?
« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2011, 11:31:01 PM »
By ratings..

NASCAR beats everything...including Football!!


Sean_A

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Re: Should majors in the U.S. not be played in June, July, or August?
« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2011, 05:35:33 AM »
Pat
I thought you knew SE PA.
Early May can be dicey I agree but we typically have great conditions by mid may.
Obviously the further north you go the longer the wait.


Rory,

On May 15th in Philadelphia, PA the average low is 49 and the average high is 69.
Not exactly the great conditions you cite.

I didn't look at the average participation for that day, but, any rain combined with a 49 degree temperature wouldn't make for ideal conditions.


Sounds perfect - perhaps a tad too hot even.  Pat, do you have the metabolism of a reptile? 

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Adam Clayman

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Re: Should majors in the U.S. not be played in June, July, or August?
« Reply #30 on: August 01, 2011, 05:59:32 AM »
It's a real testament to decision makers, that the TV ratings are a paramount factor versus intruding on people enjoying their Father's day, with dad.
"It's unbelievable how much you don't know about the game you've been playing your whole life." - Mickey Mantle

Steve Kline

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Re: Should majors in the U.S. not be played in June, July, or August?
« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2011, 07:57:23 AM »
I thought I was pretty clear in my original post that I knew changing the dates of the majors would never happen for a number of reasons - TV, tradition, TV, TV, etc. But everyone jumped to the actual possibility of changing dates anyway.

My point was that wouldn't the courses and the architecture come off better by changing the dates to when there is more favorable weather? The desired conditions could be more easily achieved at a much lower cost. The courses would be assured of playing more difficult without doing the things we despise - overly narrowing the fairways, adding length for difficulty, etc. Wouldn't this result in the majors setting a better example for the game? Instead we have courses spending tons of money attempting to produce peak conditions in months that it isn't really possible.