Tom MacWood,
"Seth Raynor was born in Suffolk County in 1878 and settled in
Southampton as a surveyor. Employing him to survey our Sebonack
Neck property, I was so much impressed with his dependability
and seriousness I had him make a contour map and later gave him
my surveyor's maps which I had brought from Scotland and England,
telling him that I wanted those holes laid out faithfully to
those maps. For three to four years he worked by my side." - Charles Blair Macdonald
"As I stated in my agreement to associate with me two qualified
golfers in America, making a committee of three to carry out this
general scheme, I asked Jim Whigham and Walter Travis as associates.
Eventually I dropped Travis, and .Jim vVhigham and myself,
with the kindly interest taken by Joseph P. Knapp, James A. Stillman,
Devereaux Emmet, Charles A. Sabin, and others, forged
ahead with the construction from the surveyors' maps and the thirty
or forty drawings which I had made myself abroad of different
holes which I thought were worth while. These drawings were not
necessarily copies of the particular hole from tee to the putting.
green, but in most instances were of the outstanding features which
I thought made the hole interesting and which might be adapted to
a hole of different length. Two or three of such features might be
put in a hole which would make it more or less composite in its
nature." - Charles Blair Macdonald
Or this article, from December 1906...
I'd be interested in your take on how NGLA was routed if you don't believe a contour map was involved. For purposes of our discussions, I'm defining "routing" as the location of 18 tees, fairways, and greens.
Thanks.
Patrick,
You keep telling Jeff he'd agree with your train ride nonsense if he was more familiar with the property, yet everyone here who is very familiar with the property including me, Jamie, Sully, Tom Paul, Dan Hermann, and others say you are full of crap.
The only ones to give you any credence have strangely never been there. Amazing.