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Sandwich vs. Deal
Mark Chaplin:
Tiger I totally agree that RCP isn't a big championship course however that doesn't mean they cannot be compared. Some guys prefer large breasts and others small but well formed, it is still possible to compare their merits.
As for Rye it is a very fine club playing over a very special course, some people love it and for others it's a little too quirky. Also they never allow 3 or 4 ball and I know you are not a fan of foursomes.
Noel Freeman:
--- Quote from: Tiger_Bernhardt on July 17, 2011, 01:53:44 PM ---I respectfully do not see these courses as comparable. I think both are great and deserve the love they get. I feel the same about Rye which to me is #2 in SE England with Deal #3 behind Sandwich. Sandwich is a big championship course which Deal is not.
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Tiger, I see the word respectfully and so please realize I say this with respect, your comment is nonsensical-with pure upfrontness I'm the Original Dealie (TM) here. Sure, Sandwich is BIG with acreage but TOC is plenty thin just like Deal and I think people would call it a big championship course. In fact when it comes to the routings, I believe Deal is the MOST like TOC of any links out there especially when you call into play the similarities of the 1st hole. Deal was a championship course until 1949 when it lost the rota and hosts the BIGGEST most important AMATEUR event in the UK outside of the Amateur--The Halford Hewitt, and it defends itself just fine. I'd prefer an intricate, fair yet quirky course with terrific greens rather than an expansive, capricious beast that lacks texture and nuance. And this from someone who has played Sandwich 6x to 75x at Deal.
Also, Deal if it got the Open could put a TEMPORARY Rail station right behind the club and people could walk thru a farm where the club could put a tented village right up to the clubhouse and first tee. IT is perfect. Think outside the box. DEAL IS A GREAT VENUE if people could get over the stiff upper lip and inertia. But fine, don't go to Deal, I'm upset it has been publicized here after all there were not so many Dealies when I joined GCA at the get go, so don't go, the course stinks, stay away!!! ;)
Chappers I'm there this tuesday if you are around..mid-day.. Will do seawall tee pix.
Sean_A:
"hosts the BIGGEST most important AMATEUR event in the UK outside of the Amateur--The Halford Hewitt"
Tuco - what bollocks is this? The HH is important for the deck chair port crowd, but not for the best amateurs in the country. I would be surprised if it is even on the radar for Walker Cup qualification.
Ciao
Mark Chaplin:
Sean - the Hewitt is/was believed to be the biggest annual Amateur event in the world with 640 competitors. It is important to the selectors as a good percentage of them take part!!
Noel - sadly I'm working nights this week.
Mark Pearce:
At last! After weeks of finding things to disagree about I am completely in agreement with Sean. Noel, I know you love Deal but that statement about the Halford Hewitt is just utter nonsense. Chappers, you're a smart guy and a fantastic advocate for Deal but "the most important amateur event outside the amateur"? Good effort trying to defend that nonsense but perhaps better not to try. It may be big, I'm sure it's fun but important? Who to?
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