Wouild a Great Artist Paint Sandwich or Augusta National?

[Phil Benedict]

It seems to me that if Monet were alive today and some rich golf nut commissioned landscapes of golf courses, he would choose a place like Royal St. Georges with its naturalistic tones and rumpled landscape as opposed to an unnatural looking place like ANGC.

I love the look of the Open Championship courses.  The sun was out this morning and there really is nothing better in golf.

[Mark Pritchett]

Is the "he" Monet or the rich golf nut?

[Sam Morrow]

It seems to me that if Monet were alive today and some rich golf nut commissioned landscapes of golf courses, he would choose a place like Royal St. Georges with its naturalistic tones and rumpled landscape as opposed to an unnatural looking place like ANGC.

I love the look of the Open Championship courses.  The sun was out this morning and there really is nothing better in golf.

I agree, I have seen pictures of Augusta that look so fake that I can't tell if it's a painting or a picture.

[Mark Pritchett]

What's your point?

[Tom_Doak]

I remember seeing a beautiful oil painting of Sandwich years ago, which had the nuclear plant next door featured prominently.

I couldn't fathom why someone would paint that in, instead of ignoring it.  The golf course has been there much longer than the nuke plant.

[Mark Pritchett]

It is a very natural looking nuclear plant. 

[RJ_Daley]

If one were to do a series of seasons or conditions depicting the two courses, it seems to me that ANGC requires Thomas Kincaid, and RSG requires Thomas Moran...  Syrupy idyllic VS raw and wild.

[Pete Lavallee]

You mean like this:

[Mike Hendren]

As big a fan as I am of Augusta National Golf Club, it undoubtedly lacks visual texture. 

[Garland Bayley]

Clearly Monet would paint Augusta National. There would be no contest. This is Monet we are speaking of, not Picasso!

[Tim Martin]

Any time you have water as a backdrop you got a leg up. Advantage Sandwich.

[Jaeger Kovich]

Well... If Mr. Monet was in the mood to paint something more like his famous waterlillies, more focused (zoomed in) flowers or perhaps incorporate some bridges into his flowery Japanese type garden-scape scenes then he could probably find a few spots around ANGC that would be very much to his liking. That said, his broader view landscape paintings and overall liking for a more muted pallet would probably be more suited for a links course, especially with his textured brush strokes...

I can also imagine him trying to capture some early morning fog and mist as the sun comes up along the trees at Augusta or the swirling winds and rain through some tall fescues and native grasses of a dunescape, not to different from his groundbreaking painting he did in the Paris train station.



... I love threads that incorporate art history with gca!

[Marty Bonnar]

Great artists don't give a shit about anything as ephemeral as a golf course.

[John Shimp]

What is ephemeral about a 100 plus year old golf course or was that to be funny?

[Tim Martin]

Great artists don't give a shit about anything as ephemeral as a golf course.

Marty-I don`t understand the connection of the word ephemeral to a golf course as old as Sandwich(1887) or ANGC(1933) for that matter. The term seems misplaced in that the great majority of golf courses are not transitory, and most certainly not those in the British open rota.

John Shimp-We must have been typing these out at the same time but are entirely in agreement. Sorry for the overlap.

[Colin Macqueen]

Marty,
You were ephemeral! But I doot ye are as beautiful as a golf course.

Cheers Col

[Carl Johnson]

It is a very natural looking nuclear plant. 

The TV commentators today said that the stacks are not those of a nuclear plant, but rather that of a coal fired plant that is no longer in operation.  What do I know?  That's what they said.  Does it make any difference?  Are coal fired plant stacks any more natural than those of a nuclear plant (from a GCA standpoint)?

[Marty Bonnar]

Boys,
while we'll have to agree to disagree as to what might constitute ephemeral (the next ice age is only 50k years away!), my point was more that a so-called 'great artist' would never concern themself with the trivialities of a thing like golf.
Great art, in my opinion, always only adresses and reflects much weightier, way more important shit than that.
cheers,
F.

[Dan Kelly]

I remember seeing a beautiful oil painting of Sandwich years ago, which had the nuclear plant next door featured prominently.

I couldn't fathom why someone would paint that in, instead of ignoring it.  The golf course has been there much longer than the nuke plant.

Could be that was exactly the artist's point!

Could be the artist was attracted to the contrast, eh?

[Scott Warren]

It isn't a nuclear plant.

It's the Richborough Power Station. Initially burnt coal, then oil, then bitumen.

It was decommissioned in the mid-90s, but now there are plans to connect it to the wind turbines in the Channel and Thames estuary.

[BCrosby]

But did the painting omit the big white Pfizer research buildings?

Bob

[Scott Warren]

Bob,

I believe he would capture expertly the beagles with hard-ons that alerted the test supervisors that the heart disease drug they were working on had other uses!

That's a true story, by the way. Pfizer "discovered" Viagra when they were testing a heart drug on beagles and all the test subject were running around the yard with raging erections. A bit more testing was done (I assume the test crew all swallowed one!) and the rest is history!

[BCrosby]

Scott -

If that is what was going on in those stark white buildings, who am I to complain?

Bob

[JC Jones]

Bob,

I believe he would capture expertly the beagles with hard-ons that alerted the test supervisors that the heart disease drug they were working on had other uses!

That's a true story, by the way. Pfizer "discovered" Viagra when they were testing a heart drug on beagles and all the test subject were running around the yard with raging erections. A bit more testing was done (I assume the test crew all swallowed one!) and the rest is history!

I'd hate to play Sandwich that way.  Curious though, does one get a drop from a red rocket?

[Mark Bourgeois]

Boys,
while we'll have to agree to disagree as to what might constitute ephemeral (the next ice age is only 50k years away!), my point was more that a so-called 'great artist' would never concern themself with the trivialities of a thing like golf.
Great art, in my opinion, always only adresses and reflects much weightier, way more important shit than that.
cheers,
F.

+1

That said, Marty, when I read the title of the thread my thoughts ran to the idea of Francis Bacon or Damien Hirst painting a sandwich at Augusta. Or should I say a sandwich of Augusta, like a barbecue or a pimiento.

Boy that would be one weird-looking sandwich. Don't ask me if / whether there'd be a background to the painting of a sandwich at Augusta. (I can see the reviews now of the 'Augusta Sandwich' painting: 'sh*t sandwich.' G*d I love that movie!)

One last point re Monet. If he were alive today modern medicine would have fixed his vision problems and he'd probably be painting buildings. On the other hand, it is possible he would be painting landscapes. We could admire them on the walls of our Holiday Inn hotel rooms.