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Neil_Crafter

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A few Mackenzie finds
« on: July 07, 2011, 04:58:27 AM »
Just thought I'd relate some information and photographs that I have turned up on three Mackenzie courses in England.

CLEETHORPES GC
The first of these is Cleethorpes GC, near Grismby on Lincolnshire's eastern coast, and until 1930 was known as Grimsby & Cleethorpes GC. The course was extended from its original 9 holes to 18 holes in 1903 to a design by Harry Vardon and in 1923 the local council who leased the land to the golf club wanted some of it back. Mackenzie was called in to reconfigure the course, which Carters built at a cost of 2000 pounds. It is not clear whether he was given additional land or had to make do. Construction work was completed in April 1924. In 1929 a series of photographs were taken - presumably for a golf club handbook - and these are reproduced in the club history book. Cleethorpes has not been previously recognised in any of the lists in Cornish and Whitten, Doak et al and Hawtree as being a Mackenzie design. Until I acquired a copy of the history book I was unsure, but upon seeing the 1929 photos there can be little doubt. Looks like two of the greens in the photos are simple rectangles and were presumably some of the old greens that were not altered.







STANMORE GC
This London course was reconstructed after WW1 by Mackenzie, although there is very little information about what he did. He included Stanmore in the list of courses in his 1923 brochure that he issued after splitting from Colt and Alison. There is a photo hiding down the back of the history book of the clubhouse and 18th green/bunker, looks to be from the 1930s. A more recent shot from the early 1990s was on the cover of the book, it is instructive to see how the bunker has been totally simplified in the ensuing years.





WORCESTER G & CC
Listed by DSH as a revised course from 1924, as does Hawtree. C&W list as a new course from 1927 and this is closer to the mark. In fact it was a new course for the club who needed to relocate. Club's centenary booklet from 1998 has some good information. Mackenzie was first approached in 1925 by chairman of greens Dr Norman Duggan to inspect a possible site for their new course at Spetchley Park, and he produced a favourable report for the AGM. That same year Dr Duggan took Mackenzie to visit another site at Boughton Park and Mackenzie was enthusiastic. A Special GM in August 1926 the membership backed the move to Boughton Park and the newly formed company commissioned Mackenzie to design the course. A Course Construction Committee was formed to liaise with the architect Dr Mackenzie and the the Golf Construction Company, the contractors (presumably the British Golf Course Construction Company). By the AGM of March 1927 construction commenced. By late summer of 1927 construction was virtually complete when the construction company left. The new course opened officially on Whitsaturday 1928.

There are some nice photographs in the booklet, highlighting Mackenzie's bunkering, possibly these were originally in the form of postcards.


Tom MacWood

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Re: A few Mackenzie finds
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2011, 06:23:49 AM »
Neil
Very interesting finds, with compelling photographic evidence. What date do you put Mackenzie leaving the UK permanently to live in America? How many courses did he design or redesign in the UK after that date, there seems to be a few?

Sean_A

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Re: A few Mackenzie finds
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2011, 07:35:34 AM »
Neil

It has always been my understanding that Boughton Park was 100% original Dr Mac on a totally new site.  The course was altered some 15 years ago for safety reasons along the road where the old 3rd hole was.  That hole was turned into a par 5 turning awkwardly right and using the old 5th green.  So #s 4 & 5 of the original course were lost - I believe a par 3 and a shortish par 4.  The 4th now uses the corridor of the old 6th and follows the original routing through the 8th hole - the par 3 over the water described in your photos as the 10th.  There are now three new holes on the other side of the river in a flood plain (which is why Dr Mac wouldn't have built there in the first place) which also extends to the lower part of the current 12th fairway.  This fairway now plays to that lower part except in the very wet weather when a winter course is set-up to play along the ridge as Dr Mac originally planned.  The reason for now using the lower land near the river is because the 18th was altered and it uses that old fairway for a long par 4 with an awkward dogleg to the left.  This of course means the original 17th (following the par 3 in the middle left of map) was lost.  Three new holes for three old holes.  The little par 3, current 13th playing severely downhill to the river (lower left in map) must have been a nightmare for flooding in the winter.  I can only surmise Dr Mac had nowhere else to build.  The map doesn't depict the road which comes in between #s 1 and 2 and leads to parking behind (to the left of the clubhouse as seen in map) the house - a very dangerous place to park!

Anyway, the club has totally lost the plot. As can be seen in the old photos, the greens are narowish and flanked hard by bunkers necessitating approaching from the correct angle.  The bunkering survives quite well, but trees are all over the place blocking out prime approach angles.  Its a shame, because Worcester is a good course.  At some point, the rather fabulous clubhouse (Boughton Park) had a fire and lost its top floor.  It was never re-built and now looks rather odd.  All in all, I would say the changes are a complete disaster and the club should have hired an expert to plan the work.  They used the club pro - heavy sigh.

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« Last Edit: July 07, 2011, 10:35:18 AM by Sean Arble »
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Neil_Crafter

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Re: A few Mackenzie finds
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2011, 08:08:05 AM »
Tom
Thanks. As to when exactly Mac could be considered a US dweller rather than a UK one I think dates to when his house at Pasatiempo was complete and he occupied it. Until then I believe his time was split between the US and the UK. What that date of occupation is I do not know precisely. But looking into William Wurster's works there is a date for the Mackenzie House that he designed given as 1931.

What did he design in the UK from 1929 onwards? Broadway GC (Worcestershire) 1929, Walsall GC 1930, Bingley St Ives first 9 holes 1931. Think that's about it. he was concentrating on the US and had just been to South America.

Sean
Thanks for your thoughts on Worcester. Your understanding was certainly correct but other lists in the past have not quite had it as right. So I just wanted to set this out but mainly I wanted to show the pics.

Sean_A

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Re: A few Mackenzie finds
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2011, 10:49:59 AM »
Neil

I believe Dr Mac had a very limited role Broadway.  I can only find evidence of his work on 2-5.  He may have had more suggestions which T Simpson acted on, but that would seem odd - no?

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Tim Leahy

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Re: A few Mackenzie finds
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2011, 01:02:09 PM »
The picture of Stansmore reminds me of the old 18 hole bunkering at Haggin Oaks, here in Sacramento. Although not much is left of the Mac work at Haggin occasionally I see something from some of his other courses.
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Neil_Crafter

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Re: A few Mackenzie finds
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2011, 05:43:35 PM »
Sean
This is what I have re Broadway:
Not listed in DSH, Hawtree or C&W. Club website indicates, "There are three very good par 3's with characters of their own, but the 5th stands out for many golfers as our signature hole; the hole was designed by Dr Alistair Mckenzie of Augusta fame in the 1920's. Course architecture is credited to James Braid who was mainly responsible 1st hole and the back nine. Mckenzie and Tom Simpson carried some of the work out during the 1920's." Moreton records that Braid added a second 9 holes in 1938.  Club history book indicates that in 1929 the club decided to spend 150 pounds on course improvements and the Hon. Sec. was instructed to contact Dr. Mackenzie regarding the expense of a personal visit. He replied in October 1929 that his fee for a visit and design for a new green would be 20 guineas. This was too much for the club and by November Mackenzie had dropped his fee to 5 guineas plus first class travel which was accepted. Dr Mackenzie visited on November 28th 1929 and at the December meeting the Secretary read out Mackenzie's "very full" report on the course.  It was decided to proceed with the reconstruction of the 4th green and the making of a new 2nd green. Also indicates that Mackenzie designed the 3rd green. The club asked Mackenzie to send a skilled foreman to superintend the work and by February 1930 the 125 pounds had been spent. 

So it seems clear that Mackenzie redesigned a few greens at Broadway, this ties in with your understanding Sean. I just listed it as a course in England where Mackenzie worked around 1930, certainly I never thought it was the whole course. It would seem though that he did a report on the whole course but they only acted on a few of his recommendations, being some replacement greens.

Bill_McBride

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Re: A few Mackenzie finds
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2011, 09:50:48 PM »
As Sean knows, Broadway was my very first UK course to play, and I certainly had no idea the good Doctor was involved!   As a dedicated  Mackenzie-phile, I'm very happy to remember just how good holes 2-5 are. 

I played there about 25 years ago after coming across the course on a hike across the Cotswold Way from Chipping Camden.   

John Mayhugh

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Re: A few Mackenzie finds
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2011, 10:25:41 PM »
Some cool vintage photos, Neil. Thanks.
That bunkering on Cleethorpes looks pretty sweet.

Neil_Crafter

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Re: A few Mackenzie finds
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2011, 01:22:11 AM »
Thanks John, I thought they were sweet too.

Tim, the Stanmore photo also reminds me a little of this photo of Mackenzie bunkering at the London Flying Club from around 1920