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Tony_Muldoon:
Whose debating?
It may look like shooting fish in a barrel but really it's watching a troll repeated shooting himself in the foot both feet.
(Can't help wondering what Jakka makes of Bubba's comments this weekend. Note to self. Stop it)
John Kavanaugh:
Multiple clubhouses = caste system. Sorry.
Kalen Braley:
I hate to admit this...but I really have to agree with J/K on this one.
All this stuff reminds me of the pre-civil rights era where everything was "separate but equal".
A bus for coloreds, and a bus for whites
Drinking fountains for coloreds and fountains for whites.
Schools for coloreds and schools for whites.
Neighborhoods for coloreds and neighborhoods for whites.
"Separate but equal". ::) ::) ::)
I guess those coloreds should have "known their place and been content" with what they had.
Mark Chaplin:
Kalen having checked your top 25 played either you didn't enjoy your UK golf experiences or you haven't been to these shores either so have no idea how a British club runs.
Brian - Different clubhouses mean different clubs, although I believe Ballybunion used to have a members clubhouse and a visitors clubhouse.
Sean_A:
Wow, some attitudes on this thread have me perplexed. Let me get this straight. Because originally a bunch of well to do guys allowed the less fortunate (meaning folks who didn't have the means to join a club even if there were no class barriers) to act as servants of the main club in exchange for cheap golf and and the formation of their own club - that this is somehow bad. I can buy that class barriers are not a desirable set of mores, but I can't buy that working around those mores to the benefit of those born on the wrong side of the tracks is bad. What, did you want the main the club to have a scholarship system in place whereby folks could be a member of the main club without paying? Eventually you folks will understand that equality is a legal, not an economic term. Barriers will and do exist everywhere whether intentionally or not. Shit, every sort of golf club has its ruling elite based mainly on connections and/or handicap and we all know it. So what - get over it.
Of course today some artisan clubs are packed with smart professional people who would rather pick weeds for a few hours a month and be compensated for their efforts with cheap access to what is often times very good golf than pay full whack for the priveledge of walking through a set of doors - very clever if you ask me. Sure, the sense of noblesse oblige on the part of the main club has now been largely eliminated, but some artisans benefit in that they would not be able to play or perhaps play such a high quality course. I would join an artisan club in a heartbeat, but then I don't care what others think concerning equality, personal pride and class barriers.
Ciao
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