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Artisan Members
JMEvensky:
--- Quote from: John Kavanaugh on July 01, 2011, 10:43:40 AM ---
In America we treat all members equal no matter what they pay to belong.
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If the lesser paying members get all the goodies without restriction,aren't they more than equal?
Kalen Braley:
If I'm reading some of these comments correctly, sounds like the American system could adopt a thing or two from the UK model.
Have a "lower class" of members where:
1) They have limited tee time slots Mondays thru Thursdays only.
2) Thier clubhouse is the break room in the maintaince shack.
3) They can do a partial pay/partial maintence gig to earn their playing privileges. For example minimum 10 hrs per week weeding flower beds, valley parking, raking leaves in the fall combined with $50 green fees to play a course they wouldn't otherwise have access to.
4) $50 monthly minimum snack purchase from the machine in the break room.
5) Parking only by the maintaince shed....no clubhouse privileges.
Mark Chaplin:
John K - tell me how many local "working" people get to play at Merion, Cypress Point, Chicago Golf or National Golf Links on a regular basis?
In the UK the local butcher, sparky or truck driver maybe a member of a club with access to courses such as Royal St Georges, Rye, Walton Heath, Swinley Forest and many more great tracks.
Artisans are not inferior members but members of their own club with access to a great course out of peak hours for a minimal annual sum. Part of the deal is usually an hour or so a month divoting or working on the course. Some of the longest waiting lists to join clubs in the UK are at artisan clubs.
Dub_ONeill:
Are artisan members a UK phenomenon or an English phenomenon? I have not seen them in Scotland, Wales, or N I..
John Kavanaugh:
--- Quote from: Mark Chaplin on July 01, 2011, 05:17:36 PM ---John K - tell me how many local "working" people get to play at Merion, Cypress Point, Chicago Golf or National Golf Links on a regular basis?
In the UK the local butcher, sparky or truck driver maybe a member of a club with access to courses such as Royal St Georges, Rye, Walton Heath, Swinley Forest and many more great tracks.
Artisans are not inferior members but members of their own club with access to a great course out of peak hours for a minimal annual sum. Part of the deal is usually an hour or so a month divoting or working on the course. Some of the longest waiting lists to join clubs in the UK are at artisan clubs.
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Mark,
I have a strict policy of never asking a man what he does for a living. I find it rude and boring so I have no idea if members are "working people" or not. I find your caste system of defining a man as disgusting. What is most strange is that I care far more who plays on my course than who enters my clubhouse. If I were to be a snob I could see allowing the man who paints my barn to seek comfort inside from a passing storm, but for him to ride my horse on a sunny day when he could be painting only seems to promote rot. This is why I would never ask a man who wants to borrow my horse if he can paint.
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