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Tim Taylor

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The barrancas at Pasatiempo
« on: April 29, 2011, 08:46:22 AM »
I had the good fortune to play Pasatiempo on Easter Sunday. My first visit there in a few years. The renovations looked fantastic and the course was outstanding, as usual.

I was struck by the erosion of the barrancas on the back nine.

Does anyone know if there is a plan to restore the barrancas or prevent further erosion?

What can be done?

Tim
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Bill_McBride

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Re: The barrancas at Pasatiempo
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2011, 10:36:59 AM »
Tim, did you see the photos of the goats hard at work eating the vegetation in the barrancas?  I suspect the erosion is the same but a lot more visible than pre-goats.
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Jed Peters

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Re: The barrancas at Pasatiempo
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2011, 10:41:54 AM »
Not to be a naysayer, but aren't those barrancas natural erosion to contain water and runoff during periods of storms anyhow?
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paul cowley

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Re: The barrancas at Pasatiempo
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2011, 08:15:14 PM »
Actually they are intermittent streams...only running under high rain level occurrences.

Call them arroyos in the desert with little vegetation...or barrancas where there is rain and grasses in them as a consequence.

Pebble #2 and #16 have great examples of bunkers at the bottom of barrancas that cross fairways, but that probably only flood every 5 years or so.
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Tim Taylor

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Re: The barrancas at Pasatiempo
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2011, 08:35:48 PM »
Bill ... no, didn't see that photo. Not sure how I missed it as I lingered in the club house admiring the displays and artifacts. Is it an old photo or more recent?

Paul ... interesting. You know the big barranca/arroyo/ditch that runs between 11 and 12? The part of that in front of the 12th green was filled with sand. Don't recall that being the case on my previous visits to Pasatiempo.

Tim
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Peter_Herreid

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Re: The barrancas at Pasatiempo
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2011, 08:41:48 PM »
Here's one of the previous threads, with photos and other links, from last October 2010

http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php?topic=45940.0
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Bill_McBride

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Re: The barrancas at Pasatiempo
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2011, 10:31:03 PM »
Quote from: Tim Taylor on May 02, 2011, 08:35:48 PM
Bill ... no, didn't see that photo. Not sure how I missed it as I lingered in the club house admiring the displays and artifacts. Is it an old photo or more recent?

Paul ... interesting. You know the big barranca/arroyo/ditch that runs between 11 and 12? The part of that in front of the 12th green was filled with sand. Don't recall that being the case on my previous visits to Pasatiempo.

Tim

Tim, I remember sand in the bottom that barranca for many years. I suspect the club is just keeping it cleaned out these days.
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Mike Benham

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Re: The barrancas at Pasatiempo
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2011, 11:26:55 PM »
+20" of rain this season in the Santa Cruz mountains, the sand soil at the bottom is likely simple sediment from the runoff ...

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