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Richard Choi

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Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« on: April 18, 2011, 12:22:05 PM »
The next template hole up for discussion is Redan. Please submit your favorite redan holes for the tournament. I will take nominations for a week. I suspect this will be a large field.

Qualification: a front-to-back sloped, diagonal green with a bunker on the side facing the approach. I will accept both the traditional Redan (right to left diagonal), and reverse Redan (left to right diagonal).

Happy nominations.
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Jeff_Mingay

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2011, 01:00:57 PM »
Richard,

I played the Marshwood course at The Landings, on Skidaway Island (Georgia), a few weeks ago. The course was originally designed by Arnold Palmer and co. But Tim Liddy redid it a few years ago.

The 4th hole there is (now) one of the coolest, flat-land reverse Redan holes I've seen/played. The view from the tee is stunningly cool; especially upon first sight (I wish I'd had a camera with me, but didn't). And the green is really, really well done. It's a super-cool looking hole that was really fun to play... made from scratch (read: featureless ground), too.   
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Mark Saltzman

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2011, 01:13:15 PM »
Mountain Lake #11; YHC #6
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Richard Choi

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2011, 01:22:02 PM »
If you have any photos of the hole, it would be greatly appreciated! :)
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Jud_T

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2011, 01:33:57 PM »
Tamarack #7
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Mark Saltzman

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2011, 01:42:05 PM »
Mountain Lake #11



YHC #6 (taken from the GCA.com review of YHC)



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JLahrman

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2011, 02:42:10 PM »
#15 at Camargo, and I hope John Mayhugh doesn't mind me stealing one of the photos from his excellent collection of pics of Camargo..

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Lester George

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2011, 03:17:25 PM »

Old White number 8 (picture on earlier thread)

Cavalier number 18 (picture on earlier thread)

Camargo number 15

Yemans Hall number 6

Lester
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Bill Brightly

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2011, 03:22:55 PM »
You might have posted this one first, and then taken nominations for second place (besides the original in North Berwick)

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Bill Brightly

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2011, 03:26:22 PM »
Hackensack (Banks)






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Bill Brightly

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2011, 03:30:19 PM »
North Berwick



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Mark McKeever

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2011, 03:32:27 PM »
CC of Charleston is my nomination.  Hole 11

Mark
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Richard Choi

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2011, 03:35:14 PM »
C'mon Mark! At least give me the hole number... :)
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Bill Brightly

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2011, 03:35:41 PM »
Piping Rock

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John_Conley

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2011, 03:47:04 PM »
#4 at Somerset.
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Howard Riefs

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2011, 04:30:24 PM »
Kiawah Island, The Ocean Course, Hole #8





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Tony_Chapman

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2011, 04:43:50 PM »
Looking for a picture of the 4th at Wild Horse.
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Patrick Kiser

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2011, 04:49:07 PM »
Good call by Bill on Piping rock.

For a more modern version, I'll throw out the 16th at Apache Stronghold.  Thought that one was pretty decent.  Has the fear of the bunkering and table top config.  Setting is pretty good too.

Pic is unfortunately poor.

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Michael Whitaker

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2011, 04:50:23 PM »
Richard - This is going to be a quick competition. The 15th at North Berwick is THE REDAN... all others are pretenders to the throne.
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Richard Choi

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2011, 04:51:43 PM »
Michael, that's what they said about Prestwick Alps...
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Kalen Braley

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2011, 04:51:59 PM »
Quote from: Michael Whitaker on April 18, 2011, 04:50:23 PM
Richard - This is going to be a quick competition. The 15th at North Berwick is THE REDAN... all others are pretenders to the throne.

Same was true the last time around, but it lost out to The National!
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JLahrman

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2011, 04:57:07 PM »
If the original is always going to be the winner just because it's the first, then there is no point to the THM.  If Richard wants to do this, then just leave out the original.
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Richard Choi

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2011, 04:58:31 PM »
I would like to keep the original in since that means that we get to learn about that hole as well.

It is certainly not a given that the original will win...
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JLahrman

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2011, 05:00:02 PM »
Quote from: Richard Choi on April 18, 2011, 04:58:31 PM
I would like to keep the original in since that means that we get to learn about that hole as well.

It is certainly not a given that the original will win...

I agree with you, and I don't think the original should automatically win either.  I think people should just be judging the architectural merits of the hole.  Whether it was the original or the 57th copy isn't an issue to me.
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Sean Leary

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Re: Template Hole Madness! - Redan - Taking Nominations!!!
« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2011, 05:06:26 PM »
I will nominate 3 at Chambers Bay since Rich can't. ;)
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