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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Cranwell Resort and Golf
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2012, 09:15:30 AM »
The 11th was shortened because of the house on the left side of the fairway, too many hooked shots into it and the owner had enough.
It has had a negative effect on the flow of the back nine, now you get two long par 3s in a row, followed by a goofy par 4. The 'saving grace' after that stretch is #14.
 
Number 5 wasn't shortened, I was there in June.


 
"I never beat a well man in my life" - Harry Vardon

David Harshbarger

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Re: Cranwell Resort and Golf
« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2012, 06:27:07 PM »
Back from our day trip, the highlight being my boys absolutely loved the experience.

Overall, I found a lot about Cranwell to like, but also quite a bit not to like.

Not liked:

The houses on 9 and 11.  We each put a ball in someone's backyard ( in my case front yard ::). I don't like the dynamic of houses on golf courses.  I just don't.

OOB - All that housing comes with OOB, which just makes a narrow, penal course.

Tired bunkers - there were many interesting and well placed bunkers, but many looked just worn out, with ragged, ill-defined edges.

Softness.  The course felt soft, and the rough killed ball roll.  That's particularly unpleasant for my kids who hit enough topped shots off the tee that lost yardage there is a drag.

Liked:

How the greens largely lay on the land.  1, 2, 5, 6, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, and 14 ( where we gave in to hunger in the face of a 3 groups backed up on the tee) all had greens that lay nicely on the land, and often with slopes from back corner to opposite front corner.

Within the greens some had a knob or roll to add extra dimension of movement.  These weren't prominent in size, but certainly exerted an influence.  The pin on 4, for instance, was on top of a tube like feature on the left that seemed to shunt putts from all directions away.

Holes of note:

6 runs along the lower flank of a hill atop which sits one of the resort buildings.  It's a dogleg left with the slope running right to left, and the green running back-right to front-left, protected in front right by a bunker.  Playing the approach in requires playing a fade from a draw lie to come in on the angle of the green, which is easier on the flatter ground inside the dogleg.

7 turns around and plays up the same hill, with a slight dogleg left against a left-right sloping fairway, protected bt a big ole tree on the line to the green.  The approach to the benched green must take the fade out of the below the feet stance or wind up right, where the surround drops steeply away.

8 has the tees in the crook of a mansion atop the hill, next to a screened in porch and below the windows of what looks like a great hall.  The short downhill par-4 plays to a small pushup green.  Fun hole.

10 as mentioned earlier is a little ally-oop down and up through a small valley.  The green on the far hill is severely sloped back-front.  (Made par after putting ball in woods - highlight of day).

12 is a good Par 3 across a small valley, to another severely sloped back-front green with some daunting bunkers in front.

13 had the first use of rip-rap I've seen in a playing corridor, surrounding a 2' diameter concrete culvert that carries water under a small ridge along the right of the fairway.  This may have been my sons' favorite feature.

14 is the highlight of course as a Par 4 slight dogleg left.  The green sits about 40 yards back from a ledge that runs diagonally left to right through the fairway, into which are cut two large bunkers.  Another ridge 70 yards out pinches the fairway from the left and along with a tree, protect the dogleg.  Drives played out in the fairway leave a blind approach over the traps, to the green which is well back from the ledge, and protected on the right with a green side bunker.  However, the green slopes left to right, so shots in will feed down.  All in all a good, fun hole.  (Unfortunately, after today, there will be a net to the left of the tee- the men were just finishing setting the poles as we played through.  Not a characteristic that anyone likes to see on a course.)

As we left the course my first thought was one and done.  My play wasn't great, but  not 5 lost ball bad.  On reflection, I'd give the course another go, of only for 14 and to see the final four.  Unfortunately, the hole corridors now defined by housing are forever impinged upon, a fact I just can't ignore when I'm on the course.



The trouble with modern equipment and distance—and I don't see anyone pointing this out—is that it robs from the player's experience. - Mickey Wright

RDecker

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Re: Cranwell Resort and Golf
« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2012, 05:20:30 PM »
Grew up sneaking on Cranwell and learned my greenskeeping craft at Cranwell before attending UMass.  Old layout before condos ruined layout was IMO superior to Taconic.  Maintenance doesn't get enough money but course still worth a look.  As caretaker of the only true Ross in the Berkshires I'm pretty proud of what Greenock offers.  A quality 9 holer still has a place in the game as far as I'm concerned and the only one I've ever seen that I'l call better is Whitinsville.  If anyone wants a peek at Greenock message me and we'll set it up.  Wahconah and Wyantenuck are otherwise the county's best options and all will offer exceptional views in the weeks to come.

Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Cranwell Resort and Golf
« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2012, 07:23:40 PM »
RDecker,
Just played Waconah today and it was in perfectly firm conditon  Played your course earlier this season and found it to be in its normally impeccable shape, even after all the rain/heat/humidity we had in the area.

Berkshire County is lucky to have the the four W's: Wyantenuck, Waconah, Waubeeka, and Williams(aka Taconic), along with the several other choices found within its borders.   

Fall golf is always special in these hills.
"I never beat a well man in my life" - Harry Vardon