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Mike Hendren

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Re: Golf Digest doing innovative things at Pine Needles
« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2011, 10:20:27 AM »
Brett, a putt that just misses a regulation cup and runs four feet past will find the bottom of a 15" cup.    You'd be surprised by how many putts you can make with a 15" cup where you can putt boldly and confidently.  It virtually eliminates the three putt.

Par (with the 15" cup)
Two Corinthians walk into a bar ....

Garland Bayley

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Re: Golf Digest doing innovative things at Pine Needles
« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2011, 11:06:16 AM »
High handicappers loose their strokes long before they reach the green. This might give a thrill or two to a small set of low handicappers that can't putt, but it is a waste of time as far as keeping people in the game.

You want to keep people in the game? Make it less expensive and faster. Perhaps get people out of their carts and exercising more.
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

George Pazin

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Re: Golf Digest doing innovative things at Pine Needles
« Reply #27 on: March 09, 2011, 11:07:12 AM »
The only real danger is that someone misreads the results, i.e. because a bunch of people show up out of curiosity, someone considers doing this more often or someone considers enlarging the hole just a bit all the time.

I will say, it's not for me.
Big drivers and hot balls are the product of golf course design that rewards the hit one far then hit one high strategy.  Shinny showed everyone how to take care of this whole technology dilemma. - Pat Brockwell, 6/24/04

Adam Clayman

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Re: Golf Digest doing innovative things at Pine Needles
« Reply #28 on: March 09, 2011, 11:14:12 AM »
Great to see a leading publication that thinks it's sport is not good enough the way it is.
"It's unbelievable how much you don't know about the game you've been playing your whole life." - Mickey Mantle

JR Potts

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Re: Golf Digest doing innovative things at Pine Needles
« Reply #29 on: March 09, 2011, 11:18:40 AM »
I don't see why everyone has their panties in a bunch over this.  It's a fun thing to do one day....like glow-ball or a playing a one-club challenge.  It's not like Pine Needles isn't giving their patrons advance warning of the event.

Lighten up....this will neither help golf nor hurt golf.  It's just a novelty and those playing and paying to play, know what they're getting into.

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Golf Digest doing innovative things at Pine Needles
« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2011, 11:21:15 AM »
I don't see why everyone has their panties in a bunch over this.  It's a fun thing to do one day....like glow-ball or a playing a one-club challenge.  It's not like Pine Needles isn't giving their patrons advance warning of the event.

Lighten up....this will neither help golf nor hurt golf.  It's just a novelty and those playing and paying to play, know what they're getting into.

Ryan,

If you played as little golf as these experts you would understand.  When I count to 100 I leave out number 3.

JMEvensky

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Re: Golf Digest doing innovative things at Pine Needles
« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2011, 11:28:26 AM »

Great to see a leading publication that thinks it's sport is not good enough the way it is.


I'm kind of in this camp.One could make the argument that GD was complicit in things getting to this point where 15" cups seems like a good solution.

With 20/20 hindsight,maybe GD would have helped more if,over the last 20 years, they'd said something about maintenance costs and I and B--other than pretty pictures and articles encouraging people to buy the newest driver.

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Golf Digest doing innovative things at Pine Needles
« Reply #32 on: March 09, 2011, 11:33:15 AM »
What has Golfweek done that is any better.  We wait with baited breath for their new top 400 course list.  Magazines are having a tough time, each and everyone of them does what is in their best interest for the short term.  You would do the same in their shoes.

JR Potts

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Re: Golf Digest doing innovative things at Pine Needles
« Reply #33 on: March 09, 2011, 12:19:08 PM »

Ryan,

If you played as little golf as these experts you would understand.  When I count to 100 I leave out number 3.

We'll I just added back in number 2.

Brian Marion

Re: Golf Digest doing innovative things at Pine Needles
« Reply #34 on: March 09, 2011, 12:20:51 PM »
Want to make golf more appealing? Charge less than $235.00 per person at Pine Needles.

That's the rate on April 2nd (Sat) at Pine Needles.

The cup being too small is not the problem..........there are much larger fish to fry than that....



Tim Gavrich

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Re: Golf Digest doing innovative things at Pine Needles
« Reply #35 on: March 09, 2011, 02:59:59 PM »
I don't beliefe it is Golf Digest's intention that 4 1/2" wide cups be abolished in favor of 15" ones.  This is not some Dr. Evil plot to take over the world; just a one-day experiment to see what happens and, as John Kavanaugh rightly indicated, sell a few more magazines because of the feedback they will compile into an article about the experiment.  I don't get the feeling that Golf Digest is trying to forge some new, supposedly improved game out of golf.  TaylorMade's CEO just made a suggestion to Jerry Tarde and he ran with it.  I really don't think anyone expects this to be the way of the future.

People can't even get the USGA, the R&A, or the PGA Tour to adopt the tougher-to-use ball that lots of people think is needed to help the game out.  What makes anyone think the 15" cup is a threat to infiltrate the game?

This doesn't strike me as much more radical than a one-club tournament, yet people participate in those more often and find them to be interesting and fun.
Senior Writer, GolfPass

mike_beene

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Re: Golf Digest doing innovative things at Pine Needles
« Reply #36 on: March 10, 2011, 12:27:43 AM »
If Taylormade was more successful in the putter business bet this suggestion wouldn't have been made.

Tim Gavrich

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Re: Golf Digest doing innovative things at Pine Needles
« Reply #37 on: March 10, 2011, 09:09:42 AM »
I'm going to be playing in this event tomorrow, in case any other GCAers are going to be there.  My tee time is 11:50 am (asked for a later one since I'm driving from Lexington, VA).  I plan on writing about it for both my Hartford Golf Examiner site and my father's site.

Cheers.

--Tim
Senior Writer, GolfPass

Tim Gavrich

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Re: Golf Digest doing innovative things at Pine Needles
« Reply #38 on: March 16, 2011, 11:18:17 PM »
A bit of a bump: the link below leads to the article I wrote for my father's site about the W I D E Open event at Pine Needles last Friday.

http://www.golfcommunityreviews.com/north-carolina/w-i-d-e-open-seriously-big-hole-golf-a-laughing-matter.html
Senior Writer, GolfPass

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