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Adam Clayman

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Re: William Flynn - "The Nature Faker", now in publication
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2011, 10:26:49 PM »
Mike, could you please post the paypal info?
"It's unbelievable how much you don't know about the game you've been playing your whole life." - Mickey Mantle

Steve Lang

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Re: William Flynn - "The Nature Faker", now in publication
« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2011, 10:32:09 PM »
:<)) Adam,

just sent wayne an email, see reply #6, and he'll promptly send you a paypal request link.. he sent mine at 0600 this morning
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Tiger_Bernhardt

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Re: William Flynn - "The Nature Faker", now in publication
« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2011, 11:11:40 PM »
Mike is there a tribute to David M in the forward

Bill Boonn

Re: William Flynn - "The Nature Faker", now in publication
« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2011, 09:07:41 AM »
Fantastic!  Just ordered my copy...

John Kavanaugh

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Re: William Flynn - "The Nature Faker", now in publication
« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2011, 10:46:36 AM »
The thought of Moriarty giving Wayne his PayPal account information is hilarious.  They need to get this thing on iTunes.  I haven't loaded a disc since I bought a pair of shoes with laces.

Joe Bausch

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Re: William Flynn - "The Nature Faker", now in publication
« Reply #30 on: February 24, 2011, 11:13:16 AM »
They need to get this thing on iTunes.

An iPad version of it would be icing on the cake.  Being able to pinch and expand all the hole drawings would be a very nice feature.
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Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

John Kavanaugh

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Re: William Flynn - "The Nature Faker", now in publication
« Reply #31 on: February 24, 2011, 11:15:39 AM »
They need to get this thing on iTunes.

An iPad version of it would be icing on the cake.  Being able to pinch and expand all the hole drawings would be a very nice feature.

I can pinch and expand on all my Apple crap.  Don't tell me this thing is only Windows friendly.

Kyle Harris

Re: William Flynn - "The Nature Faker", now in publication
« Reply #32 on: February 24, 2011, 11:16:18 AM »
They need to get this thing on iTunes.

An iPad version of it would be icing on the cake.  Being able to pinch and expand all the hole drawings would be a very nice feature.

I can pinch and expand on all my Apple crap.  Don't tell me this thing is only Windows friendly.

It's a large PDF.

Dan Herrmann

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Re: William Flynn - "The Nature Faker", now in publication
« Reply #33 on: February 24, 2011, 08:25:15 PM »
It's fantastic.  Fantastic.

If you're a GCA fan, you owe it to yourself to purchase this book.

Willie_Dow

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Re: William Flynn - "The Nature Faker", now in publication
« Reply #34 on: February 24, 2011, 09:07:06 PM »
I've lived with this from the beginning, and I thank Wayne and Tom for their persistence - (a tough word to spell).

A check is in the mail !

Joe Bausch

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Re: William Flynn - "The Nature Faker", now in publication
« Reply #35 on: February 24, 2011, 09:13:06 PM »
It's fantastic.  Fantastic.

If you're a GCA fan, you owe it to yourself to purchase this book.

And put it on your iPad. A wonderful way to consume it.
@jwbausch (for new photo albums)
The site for the Cobb's Creek project:  https://cobbscreek.org/
Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

John Kavanaugh

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Re: William Flynn - "The Nature Faker", now in publication
« Reply #36 on: February 24, 2011, 09:16:53 PM »
I've lived with this from the beginning, and I thank Wayne and Tom for their persistence - (a tough word to spell).

A check is in the mail !

Come on Willy, you really gonna download this thing yourself?

Mike Cirba

Re: William Flynn - "The Nature Faker", now in publication
« Reply #37 on: February 24, 2011, 10:22:53 PM »
I can sincerely say that I haven't read three pages without learning something new.

John Kavanaugh

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Re: William Flynn - "The Nature Faker", now in publication
« Reply #38 on: February 24, 2011, 10:28:08 PM »
I can sincerely say that I haven't read three pages without learning something new.


You are either very good at holding your breath or are more flexible than a Chilean miner.  How do you find the time?

Mike Cirba

Re: William Flynn - "The Nature Faker", now in publication
« Reply #39 on: February 25, 2011, 06:51:52 AM »
Speed reading, John, speed reading.  ;)

There are also fortunately a LOT of pictures, diagrams, drawings, etc.

Jason Topp

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Re: William Flynn - "The Nature Faker", now in publication
« Reply #40 on: February 25, 2011, 03:32:53 PM »
My copy arrived in the mail today and even though I have only scanned through the book and read the first 30 pages, I can confidently say that this work is a must purchase for anyone interested in golden age architecture. 

Dan Herrmann

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Re: William Flynn - "The Nature Faker", now in publication
« Reply #41 on: February 25, 2011, 08:35:46 PM »
Amen, Jason. Twenty years from now, this book may be considered one of the seminal works in the field of golf course architecture.

Tom MacWood

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Re: William Flynn - "The Nature Faker", now in publication
« Reply #42 on: February 25, 2011, 08:47:36 PM »
Amen, Jason. Twenty years from now, this book may be considered one of the seminal works in the field of golf course architecture.

Thats interesting. What are some of the most impactful realizations you came away with from this book?

Mike Cirba

Re: William Flynn - "The Nature Faker", now in publication
« Reply #43 on: February 25, 2011, 11:10:10 PM »
Tom,

If for no other reason than snapping up a resource that's just jam-packed with "primary source" information from many great historic clubs and courses, I'd have thought you would have procured a copy by now.

I think you'd enjoy it, as it is written very objectively, and there is more actual architectural material and historical documents presented within than any book I've ever seen.
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Dan Herrmann

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Re: William Flynn - "The Nature Faker", now in publication
« Reply #44 on: February 26, 2011, 08:33:47 AM »
Tom,
What I'm loving about it is the wealth of information present.  Diagrams, history, etc.  I really think you'd love it.

Tom MacWood

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Re: William Flynn - "The Nature Faker", now in publication
« Reply #45 on: February 26, 2011, 09:16:42 AM »
Dan
If it is going to be one of the seminal books on golf architecture I assume there is wealth of information on golf architecture in the book. Specifically what are some of the interesting tid bits you picked up regarding golf architecture? What are some of the interesting bits you picked up about Flynn?

Adam_Messix

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Re: William Flynn - "The Nature Faker", now in publication
« Reply #46 on: February 26, 2011, 09:20:19 AM »
The Nature Faker is an outstanding book with tons of information about the life and golf courses of William Flynn.  It is and will continue to be an outstanding resource of information of the original layout and evolution of all of Flynn's courses.  There's an immense amount of first hand material including letters and Flynn's drawings that make the book worth reading for any fan of the Golden Age of Architecture.  

If you want to know what happened, the realizations inside, and the information the book contains; then you ought to go ahead and purchase the book.  

Tom MacWood

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Re: William Flynn - "The Nature Faker", now in publication
« Reply #47 on: February 26, 2011, 09:36:41 AM »
Adam
I haven't read the current version of the book but I did read an earlier draft which was about the same length. Its massive length is due to all the information on every club Flynn touched, almost a mini club history of each course, and with the more prominent clubs additionally you have a detailed tournament history. All that extraneous info takes away from what should be, I believe, the primary focus, Flynn and his architecture.

On the other hand it is on a disc, so I guess you could self edit it. But some day I'd like to see an actual bound volume on my book shelf next to other books on similar architects. Unfortunately in its present form The Nature Faker would be a multiple volume set and would take up an entire shelf, not unlike The Encyclopedia Britannica.

Phil_the_Author

Re: William Flynn - "The Nature Faker", now in publication
« Reply #48 on: February 26, 2011, 09:41:21 AM »
It astounds without surprising me that one could make a comparison of the work to the Encyclopedia Brittanica and that be considered a weakness to the work... 

Steve Lang

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Re: William Flynn - "The Nature Faker", now in publication
« Reply #49 on: March 06, 2011, 11:14:11 AM »
:<)) Bump

 I've had some time now to peruse the cd and its pdf file is only 304 MB.. would that fill an iPAD??  

Its been a very very interesting and enjoyable read and look for me and despite some minor issues i have with the compilation/presentation, it is very much worth the price.

.. is that really WF on the left in the pic on page 34?

.. did I really note a thanks to Tom MacWood for some info?  ..in perspective, funny how some gca thread insults that are really only bantering get carried away and real things are appreaciated; there is a line however.

I've advised Wayne that he needs to have the pdf file bookmarked or have a linked table of contents to allow easier navigation. I found myself going back to the table of contents and jumping to different sections rather than trying the read it serially, as my initial impression was one big run-on sentence, kinda like TEP's old gca thread style.  

I would think a "condensed" version could be produced that was very focused and fit on a coffee table.

I was scratching my head on why the TEP Maintennace Meld section at the very end had to be included without any direct reference at all to Flynn or his courses' maintenance other than by general association.

Overall, Great effort!
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Inverness (Toledo, OH) cathedral clock inscription: "God measures men by what they are. Not what they in wealth possess.  That vibrant message chimes afar.
The voice of Inverness"