[Lynn_Shackelford]

Is anyone on this group a member of Austin Golf Club?

[Buck Wolter]

I've heard that Crenshaw guy is a lurker

[Michael Robin]

Austin Golf Club or Country Club?

I was actually in Austin today. Beautiful, crisp day. Out at Barton Creek for a while, didn't get to play, but looks like quite a facility. Also out at Hyatt Regency Lost Pines. Anybody know about the course out there?

Saw a sad site at a former course called Coto Vista. Abandoned several years ago, they are still trying to sell the property. Golf course is still in place, but is not maintained or irrigated anymore. Looks like a golf ghost town.

Was Austin CC renamed?

[Randy Thompson]

Micheal,
i was thinking the same thing. I beleive the old Austin Country Club is now part of the muncipals courses in Austin and is called Austin Golf Club. The new Austin Country Club was devloped in the mid 80`s and designed by Pete dye and is still called Austin Country Club. There were some controverseries when that baby opened for play.

[K. Krahenbuhl]

Austin Country Club was originally called Austin Golf Club.  The original course is now Hancock municipal course.

The current Austin Golf Club is Ben Crenshaw's private course near Spicewood.

[Michael Burrows]

Randy is correct

The original name of Austin Country Club was Austin Golf Club. The club was founded By Lewis Hancock and the first location was near the UT campus. Today the its a 9 hole course called Hancock. They they removed nine holes to build interstate 35 back in the day.

The club moved east in 1949 off of Riverside drive. This is when I believe they changed the name to ACC. The new course was designed by J. Press and Perry Maxwell. The course still remains there today and is called Riverside. This is where Crenshaw and Kite grew up playing.

The current location is off Capital of Texas Hwy and Lake Austin. The course was designed by Pete Dye in 1984.

As Kyle stated, Ben Crenshaw and seven other founding members built the current Austin Golf Club out in Spicewood in 2000.

[Mark Pritchett]

Austin Golf Club or Country Club?

Saw a sad site at a former course called Coto Vista. Abandoned several years ago, they are still trying to sell the property. Golf course is still in place, but is not maintained or irrigated anymore. Looks like a golf ghost town.

I am guessing you are referring to ColoVista in Bastrop.  I played there several years ago, the first nine was mostly flat and forgettable, however, the second nine was on nice rolling terrain.  Not a bad course by any means, sad to hear it is closed.

[Mac Plumart]

If anyone has pictures and/or thoughts on this course, that is Austin Golf Club associated with Bill Coore, I'm interested to learn more.

[Jimmy Muratt]

Austin Golf Club seems to be the Coore & Crenshaw course (or perhaps mostly Crenshaw's work, as it sounds) that gets the least amount of discussion.  Perhaps it's the fact that few have seen it.  I've always been interested in learning more about it.  For those that have played it, what are some unique characteristics of the course and club itself?

[Bart Bradley]

Austin Golf Club is a treat.  Isolated.  No homes.  Rock firm and fast.  Gently curving fairways that require the player to shape the ball to hold the fairway.  Elevated greens somewhat similar to Chechessee Creek's set.  High Rough that depending on the time of year and the weather can create lost balls.  Overall a solid but not spectacular course, IMO.

Bart

[Bill_McBride]

I agree with the "solid but not spectacular" comment.  It's really low key.  I liked both closing holes and the over the hill dogleg right with the stone wall down the left.   It is very private and quiet, with a real Hill Country vibe.  You can see why Crenshaw likes hanging around out there.

[Sam Morrow]

I agree with the "solid but not spectacular" comment.  It's really low key.  I liked both closing holes and the over the hill dogleg right with the stone wall down the left.   It is very private and quiet, with a real Hill Country vibe.  You can see why Crenshaw likes hanging around out there.

10 Is one of the coolest par 3's ever. The short course is very cool and they are tied with Sand Hills for best course cheeseburger. I love the simplicity of the design and routing at Austin Golf Club. It looks like it's always been there and it feels like the greens flow into the next tee.

[Bill_McBride]

I agree with the "solid but not spectacular" comment.  It's really low key.  I liked both closing holes and the over the hill dogleg right with the stone wall down the left.   It is very private and quiet, with a real Hill Country vibe.  You can see why Crenshaw likes hanging around out there.

10 Is one of the coolest par 3's ever. The short course is very cool and they are tied with Sand Hills for best course cheeseburger. I love the simplicity of the design and routing at Austin Golf Club. It looks like it's always been there and it feels like the greens flow into the next tee.

One of the great easy walks.

[Sam Morrow]

I agree with the "solid but not spectacular" comment.  It's really low key.  I liked both closing holes and the over the hill dogleg right with the stone wall down the left.   It is very private and quiet, with a real Hill Country vibe.  You can see why Crenshaw likes hanging around out there.

10 Is one of the coolest par 3's ever. The short course is very cool and they are tied with Sand Hills for best course cheeseburger. I love the simplicity of the design and routing at Austin Golf Club. It looks like it's always been there and it feels like the greens flow into the next tee.

One of the great easy walks.

Which C&C did you like more, Austin Golf Club or Barton Creek Crenshaw Cliffside?

[Bart Bradley]

I think Barton Creek may be my least favorite C and C.  Austin is the better course of the two, IMO. 

Bart

[Sam Morrow]

I think Barton Creek may be my least favorite C and C.  Austin is the better course of the two, IMO. 

Bart

Bart I'll take AGC also, I like Barton Creek except for that par 5 with the giant tree in the fairway. As I recall McBride really likes the course.

[Bill_McBride]

I think Barton Creek may be my least favorite C and C.  Austin is the better course of the two, IMO.  

Bart

I love that course at Barton Creek .   It's such a great contrast to the overblown, phoney baloney Fazio Foothills course (I do like the Fazio Canyons course).  What I love about the Crenshaw course is the large number of fall away greens.  Those are the most natural set of greens that are just draped over the natural terrain that I can think of.  There are just a handful that are built up in back, and two of those are just benched into hillsides (11 and 17).   It's fun playing all the bump and runs required to get at pins on those fall away greens.  

[Sam Morrow]

I think Barton Creek may be my least favorite C and C.  Austin is the better course of the two, IMO. 

Bart

I love that course at Barton Creek .   It's such a great contrast to the overblown, phones baloney Fazio Foothills course (I do like the Fazio Canyons course).  What I love about the Crenshaw course is the large number of fall away greens.  Those are the most natural set of greens that are just draped over the natural terrain that I can think of.  There are just a handful that are built up in back, and two of those are just benched into hillsides (11 and 17).   It's fun playing all the bump and runs required to get at pins on those fall away greens. 

The greens are very cool

[JLahrman]

Hi all, I thought I'd bring this one back up from the Depths. I had a chance to play Austin GC a couple of days ago. It's definitely a low key place. The course is very seamless. One hole flows into the next. You never need to look for or walk far to the next tee box. The playing corridors are wide (though not wide enough for my grapeshot driving), but there are better sides from which to approach the greens. Run ups are possible on a lot of the holes, which is nice because I'm sure it can get windy. There are also some false fronts. I would not call the greens heavily undulated, but they were running at a quick pace which nicely accentuated their contours.

I'm new to Austin and this was only the second course I've played in the area; I suspect I've played the cream of the local crop!

I don't get the feeling that there are a ton of GCAers in the Austin area, but would be interested in hearing additional opinions on the course.

[ward peyronnin]

The P.B. Dye iteration, or A Country Club as i recall may b eonen of the worst 5 courses i have ever played

[JLahrman]

The P.B. Dye iteration, or A Country Club as i recall may b eonen of the worst 5 courses i have ever played

Different course. I have not played it.

[Tom_Doak]

The P.B. Dye iteration, or A Country Club as i recall may b eonen of the worst 5 courses i have ever played

Ward:

I think you're being too harsh on that course, but to each his own.

Mainly, I wanted to correct you as to its provenance.  P.B. had nothing to do with Austin Country Club -- he was working on The Honors Course for his dad at the time.  Austin Country Club is all Pete, and if it has any other influence that would have come from the construction superintendent -- the now respected Rod Whitman!

[Michael Wharton-Palmer]

Not a big fan of Pete Dye but I cannot agree that Austin CC is that bad.
I have played it alot in the Harvey Penick and the course is very penal and unforgiving in places but not a bad golf course.
A tough place to play with a scorecard in your back pocket and will test every part of your game.
As I said I am not a fan of Pete Dye but I go back every year to the Penick as I know my game will be duly tested.

[Mark Pearce]

I loved Austin GC.  The sort of course you could happily play every day, plenty of interest, lots of challenging shots but not a ball-breaker.  The club had a really good feel, too, very welcoming and a friendly place.  Short of pretension and focussed on golf.  With CPC as near to the feel you get at the better English clubs as I have come across in the US.

I also played Barton Creek and would have to say that AGC would be my preference, though Barton Creek grew on me after a fairly bland opening run of holes.

[JLahrman]

I loved Austin GC.  The sort of course you could happily play every day, plenty of interest, lots of challenging shots but not a ball-breaker.

Totally agree with this, and let's make sure to differentiate Austin GC (Crenshaw) which is the one you and I are talking about, and Austin CC (Dye) which is what some others are talking about. No reason we can't discuss both, just need to make sure we remember which is which.

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