jeff,what do you think of the Royal Oaks practice area?I like it better than Dallas National.A two ended range that is narrow enough to have definition,fairway trap to hit from,any slope you coulees want,every short game shot imaginable on the greens behind the range,plus different grasses that can be set up to simulate different courses.I find the range at DN has to much slope,especially on the side that points to the prevailing wind and is uphill.An uphill range ruins a lot of games as people start falling back.It is really hard to beat Maniac Hill in Pinehurst and especially the putting and short game area.Also,I love the short game area at St Andrews but it is hard to forgive what it did to Eden.I don't like a short game area that has no flat lies,and the three mentioned are my favorite.Don't know who gets the design credit.I have not been invited to practice with Tiger yet but if that happens I will report.