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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Would this green get built today?
« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2011, 06:43:26 PM »
Sean,

That's a fun stratagem to play, against the grain or riding the slope, whether subtly presented as it is in this hole or more bold and  apparent.
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paul cowley

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Re: Would this green get built today?
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2011, 09:46:27 PM »
Love it.
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Tim Nugent

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Re: Would this green get built today?
« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2011, 10:43:51 PM »
Thanks for the extra views, I liked it from the 1st one but love it from the rest.  As to you original question - Hell ya
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Doug Siebert

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Re: Would this green get built today?
« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2011, 01:31:07 AM »
I love interesting greens with wild contours as much as anyone, but variety is a good thing, so having a few holes with a "boring" green is not necessarily a bad thing.  Put this on a long par 4 and it compensates for having to hit a long second, that sort of thing...
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Ally Mcintosh

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Re: Would this green get built today?
« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2011, 04:45:28 AM »
Sometimes I think we overplay wild contours...

Greens with more subtle movement are the norm as opposed to the exception in the majority of classic courses in Britain & Ireland, certainly the inland ones.

Looks like a great green site, lovely hole and perfect setting for a golf course... Where is it by the way? I don't recognise it...
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Adrian_Stiff

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Re: Would this green get built today?
« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2011, 05:47:14 AM »
I think its Whittington Heath 14 ... Sean will confirm.
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Paul_Turner

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Re: Would this green get built today?
« Reply #31 on: January 22, 2011, 07:31:22 AM »
Thanks for all the interesting replies.   Having the preferred angle of approach from the outside of the dogleg....

Adrian.  Yes it's that hole.

My whole set:

The turf hollow (Simpson might have called it a "grip") to the right of the green is typical Colt shaping.  See Swinley and Edgbaston for other good examples.








PS the old web software didn't restrict the photos to about 800 pixel width view...what happened!  It's too small!

« Last Edit: January 22, 2011, 07:45:53 AM by Paul_Turner »
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Mike_Young

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Re: Would this green get built today?
« Reply #32 on: January 22, 2011, 07:45:53 AM »
Paul,
Why would this green not be built today....
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Paul_Turner

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Re: Would this green get built today?
« Reply #33 on: January 22, 2011, 08:36:48 AM »
Mike

I never see this kind of green on a modern course.

I guess clients want something flashier?
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Anthony Gray

Re: Would this green get built today?
« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2011, 09:30:18 AM »


  I like the bunker on the left.It looks like the green slopes left to right and you can bounce one in so I bet that bunker gets alot of play.I don't think there is alot of demand these days for greens without drama.

  Anthony

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Adrian_Stiff

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Re: Would this green get built today?
« Reply #35 on: January 22, 2011, 11:23:15 AM »
Quote from: Anthony Gray on January 22, 2011, 09:30:18 AM


  I like the bunker on the left.It looks like the green slopes left to right and you can bounce one in so I bet that bunker gets alot of play.I don't think there is alot of demand these days for greens without drama.

  Anthony


Perhaps I am wrong but I thought this green ran right to left.
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Ally Mcintosh

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Re: Would this green get built today?
« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2011, 04:34:19 AM »
Quote from: Paul_Turner on January 22, 2011, 08:36:48 AM
Mike

I never see this kind of green on a modern course.

I guess clients want something flashier?

I suspect part of the reason is that you don't see many inland courses built with native soil greens anymore and it's a lot easier to slightly raise a USGA style green than to dig down the foot and a half and try to lay it at grade...

Also, tilts seem to have disappeared... to be replaced wholesale by waves...
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Anthony Gray

Re: Would this green get built today?
« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2011, 09:31:24 AM »
Quote from: Adrian_Stiff on January 22, 2011, 11:23:15 AM
Quote from: Anthony Gray on January 22, 2011, 09:30:18 AM


  I like the bunker on the left.It looks like the green slopes left to right and you can bounce one in so I bet that bunker gets alot of play.I don't think there is alot of demand these days for greens without drama.

  Anthony


Perhaps I am wrong but I thought this green ran right to left.

  I think the view is from behind the green.

  Anthony

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