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Richard Hetzel

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Hopefully, High Pointe can find a way to open as well. Nice to see that Lochenheath will be open again.

http://www.worldgolf.com/newswire/browse/65517-Mike-Husby-named-GM-Golf-Director-LochenHeath-Golf-Club
Best Played So Far This Season:
Crystal Downs CC (MI), The Bridge (NY), Canterbury GC (OH), Lakota Links (CO), Montauk Downs (NY), Sedge Valley (WI)

George Freeman

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Re: Lochenheath near Traverse City to be resurrected from the dead?
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2011, 10:40:35 AM »
Good to see that the course will be rejoining the TC golf scene.  Should be interesting to see how they market the course during the comeback.
Mayhugh is my hero!!

"I love creating great golf courses.  I love shaping earth...it's a canvas." - Donald J. Trump

Brian Joines

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Re: Lochenheath near Traverse City to be resurrected from the dead?
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2011, 10:48:43 AM »
This is good news. A few years ago, I played Lochenheath in the morning and High Pointe in the afternoon to finish off our trip. It was a great day and I really enjoyed both courses. It is hard to believe that neither were open last year.  Anyway, good to see it coming back.

Jud_T

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Re: Lochenheath near Traverse City to be resurrected from the dead?
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2011, 11:29:12 AM »
Have to try and check it out this summer....
Golf is a game. We play it. Somewhere along the way we took the fun out of it and charged a premium to be punished.- - Ron Sirak

JC Jones

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Re: Lochenheath near Traverse City to be resurrected from the dead?
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2011, 12:19:33 PM »
Maybe I'll take a look this summer.  I am quite shocked that it would get reopened.  I know many who have played it and only once while stilll opting for HP or other local options.

I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Jud_T

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Re: Lochenheath near Traverse City to be resurrected from the dead?
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2011, 12:23:20 PM »
JC,

I'm not clear-Is that because they didn't care for it?
Golf is a game. We play it. Somewhere along the way we took the fun out of it and charged a premium to be punished.- - Ron Sirak

George Freeman

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Re: Lochenheath near Traverse City to be resurrected from the dead?
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2011, 12:34:16 PM »
Maybe I'll take a look this summer.  I am quite shocked that it would get reopened.  I know many who have played it and only once while stilll opting for HP or other local options.

In the immediate TC area, you've got:

1. Kingsley
2. High Pointe (when it was open)
3. Lochenheath?

Not sure what you would put locally ahead of it...

Obviously CD, Belvedere, Acradia, Forest Dunes, Black Forest get tossed into the equation if you start increasing the sample area size.
Mayhugh is my hero!!

"I love creating great golf courses.  I love shaping earth...it's a canvas." - Donald J. Trump

Phil McDade

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Re: Lochenheath near Traverse City to be resurrected from the dead?
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2011, 01:05:32 PM »
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JC Jones

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Re: Lochenheath near Traverse City to be resurrected from the dead?
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2011, 01:22:10 PM »
JC,

I'm not clear-Is that because they didn't care for it?

Yes.  Not that they totally hated it, they just didn't feel it provided anything better than the other options.  Especially once you start opening up the area to include anything w/in 90 minutes of TC.  (which, for us Michiganders, we know a 90 minute drive is like going to get a gallon of milk)
I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Sven Nilsen

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Re: Lochenheath near Traverse City to be resurrected from the dead?
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2011, 01:39:55 PM »
JC,

I'm not clear-Is that because they didn't care for it?

Yes.  Not that they totally hated it, they just didn't feel it provided anything better than the other options.  Especially once you start opening up the area to include anything w/in 90 minutes of TC.  (which, for us Michiganders, we know a 90 minute drive is like going to get a gallon of milk)

You still buying your milk in Cadillac JC?
"As much as we have learned about the history of golf architecture in the last ten plus years, I'm convinced we have only scratched the surface."  A GCA Poster

"There's the golf hole; play it any way you please." Donald Ross

JC Jones

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Re: Lochenheath near Traverse City to be resurrected from the dead?
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2011, 02:02:09 PM »
JC,

I'm not clear-Is that because they didn't care for it?

Yes.  Not that they totally hated it, they just didn't feel it provided anything better than the other options.  Especially once you start opening up the area to include anything w/in 90 minutes of TC.  (which, for us Michiganders, we know a 90 minute drive is like going to get a gallon of milk)

You still buying your milk in Cadillac JC?


Straight from the source.
I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Ron Csigo

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Re: Lochenheath near Traverse City to be resurrected from the dead?
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2011, 04:01:31 PM »
JC,

I'm not clear-Is that because they didn't care for it?

Yes.  Not that they totally hated it, they just didn't feel it provided anything better than the other options.  Especially once you start opening up the area to include anything w/in 90 minutes of TC.  (which, for us Michiganders, we know a 90 minute drive is like going to get a gallon of milk)

You still buying your milk in Cadillac JC?


Straight from the source.

JC buys his milk at Coz's!
« Last Edit: January 06, 2011, 04:08:13 PM by Ron Csigo »
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JC Jones

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Re: Lochenheath near Traverse City to be resurrected from the dead?
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2011, 06:54:23 PM »
Maybe I'll take a look this summer.  I am quite shocked that it would get reopened.  I know many who have played it and only once while stilll opting for HP or other local options.

A group of 10 to a dozen homeowners within the community purchased the course back in November at auction. I have a good idea what they paid and it will, I hope, make a very nice return on their investment. The idea is to make it public (with different membership options made available to old/original members) and then to take it private. Very similar to what was initially envisioned and practiced when it opened in the early 2000's. To me and those familiar with the club/course, we are the furthest thing from shocked of the plans carried out thus far.

What did you think of the course, JC?

I have not played the course.  I hope the deal is as good as you are suggesting and I hope the project works out. 
I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

JC Jones

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Re: Lochenheath near Traverse City to be resurrected from the dead?
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2011, 07:28:07 PM »
Sounds good, David.  I'm in Charlevoix from June 25 - Aug 15, so I'll send you a note.  I look forward to seeing it.
I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Richard Hetzel

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Re: Lochenheath near Traverse City to be resurrected from the dead?
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2011, 10:21:26 AM »
Maybe I'll take a look this summer.  I am quite shocked that it would get reopened.  I know many who have played it and only once while stilll opting for HP or other local options.

A group of 10 to a dozen homeowners within the community purchased the course back in November at auction. I have a good idea what they paid and it will, I hope, make a very nice return on their investment. The idea is to make it public (with different membership options made available to old/original members) and then to take it private. Very similar to what was initially envisioned and practiced when it opened in the early 2000's. To me and those familiar with the club/course, we are the furthest thing from shocked of the plans carried out thus far.

What did you think of the course, JC?

I have not played the course.  I hope the deal is as good as you are suggesting and I hope the project works out. 

Well, if you are up in northern MI this July and/or 1st week of August, give me a shout and we'll go out there.....

JC,

I will be up there as well. I hope to play Lochenheath as well. Maybe combine it with that run of the mill  course Belvedere we played last summer!
Best Played So Far This Season:
Crystal Downs CC (MI), The Bridge (NY), Canterbury GC (OH), Lakota Links (CO), Montauk Downs (NY), Sedge Valley (WI)

Chris_Blakely

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Re: Lochenheath near Traverse City to be resurrected from the dead?
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2011, 12:13:04 PM »
JC,

I'm not clear-Is that because they didn't care for it?

Yes.  Not that they totally hated it, they just didn't feel it provided anything better than the other options.  Especially once you start opening up the area to include anything w/in 90 minutes of TC.  (which, for us Michiganders, we know a 90 minute drive is like going to get a gallon of milk)

In the immediate Traverse City area, I like Lochenheath a heck of a lot more than what the Grand Traverse Resort Has to offer and anything in Traverse City.  In fact, you would have to go to Sutton's Bay to find another truly public course that I would say is in same caliber / dsicussion of overall quality.

The main issue I have with the course is there is a brutal walk on the front 9 that is the direct result of eliminating two back to back par 3's to generate more housing lots.  But, overall I found the course sporty, bold in areas and generally used some of the natural landforms well.  However, I enjoy blind shots and quirk.  I wonder how the greens will be received by the public as they lost some elephants building them!

Chris

Jud_T

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Re: Lochenheath near Traverse City to be resurrected from the dead?
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2011, 01:59:41 PM »
You guys better get to JC early.  He will be tossing his clubs into the Grand Traverse Bay while wearing head to toe Maize'n'Blue as part of the July 4th evening fireworks festivities.....
Golf is a game. We play it. Somewhere along the way we took the fun out of it and charged a premium to be punished.- - Ron Sirak

JC Jones

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Re: Lochenheath near Traverse City to be resurrected from the dead?
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2011, 02:47:06 PM »
You guys better get to JC early.  He will be tossing his clubs into the Grand Traverse Bay while wearing head to toe Maize'n'Blue as part of the July 4th evening fireworks festivities.....

With the parabolic escalating automatic press, I just might be signing membership documents before I leave Kingsley.
I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Jud_T

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Re: Lochenheath near Traverse City to be resurrected from the dead?
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2011, 02:50:21 PM »
We already have our token State member, thanks... ;D
Golf is a game. We play it. Somewhere along the way we took the fun out of it and charged a premium to be punished.- - Ron Sirak

JC Jones

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Re: Lochenheath near Traverse City to be resurrected from the dead?
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2011, 03:02:39 PM »
I guess the only way to ensure you win the MSU/UM matches every year is to not let in MSU grads. 
I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Jud_T

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Re: Lochenheath near Traverse City to be resurrected from the dead?
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2011, 03:06:21 PM »
I told you I like to have an edge!
« Last Edit: January 07, 2011, 03:09:01 PM by Jud Tigerman »
Golf is a game. We play it. Somewhere along the way we took the fun out of it and charged a premium to be punished.- - Ron Sirak

Terry Lavin

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Re: Lochenheath near Traverse City to be resurrected from the dead?
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2011, 03:08:28 PM »
You two are defying common wisdom that would suggest that Spartans and Wolverines have all been rendered mute from their recent bitch-slapping.
Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people.  H.L. Mencken

Jud_T

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Re: Lochenheath near Traverse City to be resurrected from the dead?
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2011, 03:09:40 PM »
All the more reason that we need each other as a foil...
Golf is a game. We play it. Somewhere along the way we took the fun out of it and charged a premium to be punished.- - Ron Sirak

JC Jones

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Re: Lochenheath near Traverse City to be resurrected from the dead?
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2011, 03:18:14 PM »
You two are defying common wisdom that would suggest that Spartans and Wolverines have all been rendered mute from their recent bitch-slapping.

This wisdom you speak of, it is not common.
I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Richard Hetzel

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Re: Lochenheath near Traverse City to be resurrected from the dead?
« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2011, 09:42:55 AM »
I once had a very enjoyable 45 hole day that went like this:

Back 9 on the Wolverine (which IMO is the best course at the Traverse Resort).
18 at High Pointe
18 at Arcadia Bluffs.

Great Day.

I believe that the resort operated Lochenheath for one season, but they most likely lost money on the deal. Hopefully someone can find a way to get High Pointe reopened.

Tom, Is HP even being maintained at some level, or did they let it go completely?
« Last Edit: January 08, 2011, 10:02:40 AM by Richard Hetzel »
Best Played So Far This Season:
Crystal Downs CC (MI), The Bridge (NY), Canterbury GC (OH), Lakota Links (CO), Montauk Downs (NY), Sedge Valley (WI)