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JC Jones

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COMPOSITE/ECLECTIC Bandon Resort Course
« on: November 23, 2010, 10:38:47 PM »
Give me your best COMPOSITE Bandon Resort Course.  You can only choose 1 of each of the numbered holes.  For example, for your #1, you must choose the first hole on one of the four courses.  For your #2, it must be the second hole, and so on.

I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Bill_McBride

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Re: COMPOSITE/ECLECTIC Bandon Resort Course
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2010, 10:51:25 PM »
What, no credit to your Jedi master, young Padawan?

Ted Cahill

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Re: COMPOSITE/ECLECTIC Bandon Resort Course
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2010, 10:52:05 PM »
Bandon night at GCA! Works for me

My composite/eclectic Bandon course with JC rules

#1- Trails
#2- Pacific
#3- Old MacDonald
#4- Bandon
#5- Bandon
#6- Pacific
#7- Pacific- (tough choice)
#8- Trails
#9- Pacific
#10-Pacific
#11- Trails
#12- Trails
#13- Pacific
#14- Bandon
#15- Trails
#16- Old MacDonald (tough choice)
#17- Old MacDonald (tough choice)
#18- Old MacDonald

JC- thanks for posing this question- it was a fun excercise...
“Bandon Dunes is like Chamonix for skiers or the
North Shore of Oahu for surfers,” Rogers said. “It is
where those who really care end up.”

JC Jones

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Re: COMPOSITE/ECLECTIC Bandon Resort Course
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2010, 10:54:17 PM »
What, no credit to your Jedi master, young Padawan?

Credit given in the other thread.  Thanks for the encouragement to start a new thread ;)
I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Mark Kinney

Re: COMPOSITE/ECLECTIC Bandon Resort Course
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2010, 12:01:28 AM »
#1 Old Mac
#2 Pacific
#3 Pacific
#4 Bandon
#5 Bandon
#6 Pacific
#7 Pacific
#8 Bandon
#9 Old Mac
#10 Pacific
#11 Pacific
#12 Bandon
#13 Pacific
#14 Bandon
#15 Trails
#16 Bandon
#17 Old Mac
#18 Pacific

Michael Robin

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Re: COMPOSITE/ECLECTIC Bandon Resort Course
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2010, 01:16:22 AM »
Fun

1. Old Macdonald
2. Pacific Dunes
3. Old Macdonald
4. Pacific Dunes
5. Bandon Dunes
6. Pacific Dunes
7. Old Macdonald
8. Old Macdonald
9. Pacific Dunes

10. Pacific Dunes
11. Pacific Dunes
12. Bandon Dunes
13. Pacific Dunes
14. Bandon Trails (yep)
15. Bandon Dunes
16. Old Macdonald
17. Bandon Trails
18. Old Macdonald

JC Jones

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Re: COMPOSITE/ECLECTIC Bandon Resort Course
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2010, 07:15:30 AM »
I am surprised so far at what I perceive to be an under-representation of Old Mac considering many think it to be the 1st/2nd best course there.
I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Eric Olsen

Re: COMPOSITE/ECLECTIC Bandon Resort Course
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2010, 07:19:26 AM »
1.  BT
2.  PD
3.  PD
4.  PD (tough over BD)
5.  BT
6.  PD
7.  OM
8.  PD (tough over BT)
9.  BT

10. BD
11. PD
12. BD
13. PD (tough over BT)
14. PD (tough over OM)
15. OM (tough over BT and BD)
16. PD (tough over BD)
17. OM
18. OM

Bill_McBride

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Re: COMPOSITE/ECLECTIC Bandon Resort Course
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2010, 08:22:04 AM »
What, no credit to your Jedi master, young Padawan?

Credit given in the other thread.  Thanks for the encouragement to start a new thread ;)

Better than that football stuff....

(I'm still bummed over Cal's 48-14 pummeling by Stanford)

Mark Kinney

Re: COMPOSITE/ECLECTIC Bandon Resort Course
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2010, 11:51:42 AM »
JC,

I think that it shows the quality and depth of the holes on the proerty.  Some of those were very tough choices for me.  For example, I think that all the 3rd holes on the property are outstanding.  I would not argue with anyone's choice for that one.

Seriously, how many holes their does one dislike?  For me there are only 4 holes that I dislike out of 72.  That's pretty amazing, considering I can probably find more than that on just about any one course.

Tim Bert

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Re: COMPOSITE/ECLECTIC Bandon Resort Course
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2010, 10:54:17 PM »
I have done this at least twice on here and I'm sure that my answers were different before. The only thing made clear by this exercise is that the #4s are the absolute best at the resort. The worst #4 could replace the best of some other #s on this list.  Likewise, the #9s are the weakest.

#1 Trails
#2 Pacific
#3 Pacific
#4 Dunes
#5 Pacific
#6 Pacific
#7 Old Mac
#8 Pacific
#9 Dunes
#10 Pacific
#11 Pacific
#12 Dunes
#13 Pacific
#14 Trails
#15 Pacific
#16 Old Mac
#17 Trails
#18 Old Mac

William_G

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Re: COMPOSITE/ECLECTIC Bandon Resort Course
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2010, 11:49:15 PM »
this is fun, as the choices are tough!

#1 Trails, great view from the black tee
#2 Trails, sand, trees, green, wind!
#3 Old Mac, over the top
#4 Pacific, two great shots here
#5 Bandon, classic bottle, even now w/o the gorse
#6 Pacific, one of my favorites
#7 Old Mac, brilliant
#8 Trails, love it, what a green!
#9 Bandon, eagle opportunity!

#10 Bandon, hit it big, to a semi blind short and tough 2nd
#11 Trails, like the setting of the green and back drop of trees
#12 Bandon, great par 3
#13 Pacific, best hole on property?
#14 Trails, birdie/double, it's great/it sucks, no margin, LOL
#15 Bandon, devil's asshole (a Bandon original)
#16 Bandon, is that a flag out there?
#17 Old Mac, a classic reborn
#18 Old Mac, classic punch bowl, shake the starters hand, thank you very much!
It's all about the golf!

Sven Nilsen

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Re: COMPOSITE/ECLECTIC Bandon Resort Course
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2010, 12:20:38 PM »
This time with hole by hole rankings:

1- BT, OM, PD, BD (amazing how all 4 ease you into the round)
2- PD, OM, BT, BD (shoe bunker swings the vote here)
3- OM, PD, BT, BD (perhaps the toughest to call)
4- BD, PD, OM, BT (BD gets the vote because the reveal happens during your play of the hole, not while walking to the tee)
5- BD, OM, BT, PD (sentimental favorite here)
6- PD, BT, OM, BD (just a tad more interest at PD over BT)
7- PD, OM, BD, BT (give me two more plays at OM and this might switch)
8- OM, PD, BT, BD (put the pin in the back at PD and I might change my mind)
9- BT, PD, OM, BD (the weakest combo of the bunch)
10- PD, OM, BD, BT (love how this hole plays with the different winds)
11- PD, OM, BT, BD (no doubter)
12- BD, OM, PD, BT (complete toss up, ask me again in a week)
13- PD, BT, OM, BD (BD is a fading 4th here)
14- BT, PD, BD, OM (my least favorite hole at OM)
15- BT, BD, OM, PD (perhaps the best green setting north of Monterey)
16- OM, BD/PD (tie), BT (and I really like 16 at BT)
17- PD/BT (tie), OM, BD (another strong group)
18- OM, PD, BT, BD (first time around OM I was looking forward to the approach on 18 after getting a peak at the green while walking to the first tee, the ultimate anticipation payoff)
"As much as we have learned about the history of golf architecture in the last ten plus years, I'm convinced we have only scratched the surface."  A GCA Poster

"There's the golf hole; play it any way you please." Donald Ross

JC Jones

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Re: COMPOSITE/ECLECTIC Bandon Resort Course
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2010, 12:29:19 PM »
I am still surprised at the under-representation of Old Mac.  I would have expected 7+ from OM.
I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Cristian

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Re: COMPOSITE/ECLECTIC Bandon Resort Course
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2010, 04:36:33 PM »
BD: 3, PD: 6, BT: 3, OM:6
(Runner Up: BT: 8, BD: 4, PD:4, OM:2)
1 BD (BT)
2 BT (PD)
3 PD (BT)
4 BD (BT)
5 BD (OM)
6 PD (BD)
7 OM (BT)
8 OM (as long as the pin is not on the front part; a deadly sin on a resort course if you ask me) (PD)
9 OM (PD)
10 PD (BT)
11 PD (BT)
12 BT (BD)
13 PD (OM)
14 BT (BD)
15 OM (BT)
16 OM (BD)
17 PD (BT)
18 OM (PD)

The funny thing is, this course would not be better than any of the courses at the resort, since a golf course for me needs a theme. For me therefore Old Mac is the course which more than others at the resort in quality outnumbers the sum of quality of its parts; the individual golf holes. (Where the opposite would apply to BT). This also perhaps explains why some people have more holes of course 'A' in their eclectic than of course 'B', while they actually might rate course B higher.


Ian_L

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Re: COMPOSITE/ECLECTIC Bandon Resort Course
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2011, 02:57:54 AM »
Just saw Old Mac for the first time, so I figured I'd bring this thread back.

#1 - BD (could be any one of the four)
#2 - PD
#3 - OM
#4 - BD (very close with PD)
#5 - BT
#6 - PD
#7 - PD (the weakest foursome IMO)
#8 - BT
#9 - BT

#10 - BD
#11 - PD (easiest call)
#12 - PD (I love the layup shot out to the right)
#13 - OM
#14 - PD
#15 - BT
#16 - BD
#17 - OM
#18 - OM

Pacific Dunes 6
Old Macdonald 4
Bandon Trails 4
Bandon Dunes 4

Alex Miller

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Re: COMPOSITE/ECLECTIC Bandon Resort Course
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2011, 01:43:30 PM »
Just saw Old Mac for the first time, so I figured I'd bring this thread back.

#1 - BD (could be any one of the four)
#2 - PD
#3 - OM
#4 - BD (very close with PD)
#5 - BT
#6 - PD
#7 - PD (the weakest foursome IMO)
#8 - BT
#9 - BT

#10 - BD
#11 - PD (easiest call)
#12 - PD (I love the layup shot out to the right)
#13 - OM
#14 - PD
#15 - BT
#16 - BD
#17 - OM
#18 - OM

Pacific Dunes 6
Old Macdonald 4
Bandon Trails 4
Bandon Dunes 4

Did you play 7 at Old Mac?! Also 7 at Trails is fine hole.

Bill_McBride

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Re: COMPOSITE/ECLECTIC Bandon Resort Course
« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2011, 03:42:56 PM »
1 - BT
2 - PD
3 - PD
4 - BD
5 - OM
6 - PD
7 - BD
8 - PD
9 - OM
10- OM
11- PD
12- BD
13- PD
14- OM
15- BT
16- OM
17- BT
18- PD

Hmmm, par 70.  The par 3's shine at Bandon, all 16 of them.

Alex Miller

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Re: COMPOSITE/ECLECTIC Bandon Resort Course
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2011, 04:35:41 PM »
1-BT (clear favorite)
2-PD
3-BT
4-BD
5-OM
6-PD
7-OM
8-BT
9-PD (upper preferrably)
10-PD (hell, the upper loop)
11-BT (the pond is a polarizing feature, but I love the setting of the hole, not to mention the cape tee shot and subtle slope of the green)
12-BD
13-PD
14-OM
15-OM
16-BD
17-BT
18-OM

OM/PD/BT 5
BD 3

Jason Topp

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Re: COMPOSITE/ECLECTIC Bandon Resort Course
« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2011, 04:37:46 PM »
I have not played the new course, but based simply on which tee would I go to if given the choice, I came up with the following:

1.  BT
2.  PD
3.  PD
4.  PD
5.  BT
6.  BT
7.  BT
8.  BT
9. BT
10. BT
11.  PD
12.  PD
13   PD
14 PD
15 BD
16 BD
17 BT
18 PD

Totals

BD 2
PD 8
BT 8

Bill Ward

Re: COMPOSITE/ECLECTIC Bandon Resort Course
« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2011, 05:32:14 PM »
1. pacific--I think trails is more fun, but there's nothing better than standing on the first tee at pacific dunes.   
2. pacific
3. old mac, maybe trails. 
4. trails. 
5. bandon
6. pacific
7. pacific
8. old mac
9. pacific lower
10. bandon
11. pacific.
12. trails--for some reason i can't miss that green.
13. trails--great hole.  oh, i forgot about that one on pacific.
14. pacific--brutal.  trails 14 gets all the complaining but pacific probably beats it for x's on the scorecard.
15. trails
16. bandon--best looking hole on the property--then pacific, old mac, trails.
17. trails, pacific.
18. pacific, old mac. 


Ian_L

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Re: COMPOSITE/ECLECTIC Bandon Resort Course
« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2011, 01:14:47 PM »

#7 - PD (the weakest foursome IMO)


Did you play 7 at Old Mac?! Also 7 at Trails is fine hole.

When you have four of the best courses in the world, the weakest foursome is still pretty darn good. #7 to me has a great view, but wasn't one of my favorite holes at OM.  I was pretty far out of position off the tee, however, so I may get a better feel for the hole next time.

Steve Kline

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Re: COMPOSITE/ECLECTIC Bandon Resort Course
« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2011, 02:54:34 PM »
From the tips on each course.

1 - PD, OM, BT, BD
2 - PD, BT, OM, BD
3 - BT, PD, OM, BD
4 - BD, PD, BT, OM
5 - BD, BT, OM, PD
6 - PD, BT, OM, BD
7 - OM, BT, BD, PD
8 - OM, PD, BT, BD
9 - BT, BD, PD, OM
10 - PD, BD, OM, BT
11 - PD, OM, BT, BD
12 - OM, BD, PD, BT
13 - PD, BT, OM, BD
14 - BT, OM, PD, BD
15 - BD, BT, PD, OM
16 - BD, OM, PD, BT
17 - BT, OM, PD, BD
18 - OM, PD, BD, BT

No. 1s
PD - 6, BT - 4, BD - 4, OM - 4

No. 2s
PD - 4, BT - 6, BD - 3, OM - 5

No. 3s
PD - 6, BT - 4, BD - 2, OM - 6

No. 4s
PD - 2, BT - 4, BD - 9, OM -3

I have played BD 4 times, BT 3 times, PD 2 times and OM 1 time. I did this quickly without too much deep thinking and I think it accurately reflects what I think of each course (although OM could change with a couple of more plays). PD is clearly the superior course to me. Many all-world holes and hardly a bad one. BT I think is great and fairly consistent. OM is good but after one play it had fewer stand out moments. BD has some great highs but if you aren't on onee of the highs then it's kind of bland. It is definitely the course I would want to play least while I'm there but it is a good warm up course.

Alex Miller

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Re: COMPOSITE/ECLECTIC Bandon Resort Course
« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2011, 04:15:21 PM »

#7 - PD (the weakest foursome IMO)


Did you play 7 at Old Mac?! Also 7 at Trails is fine hole.

When you have four of the best courses in the world, the weakest foursome is still pretty darn good. #7 to me has a great view, but wasn't one of my favorite holes at OM.  I was pretty far out of position off the tee, however, so I may get a better feel for the hole next time.
Fair enough, but I would say it's not weak at all. Sure 7 is one of the weaker holes on PD, but BD's is not bad as well with an exhilirating second shot. I hope it doesn't seem like I'm picking on you, just professing my love of the 7s!

Sean Leary

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Re: COMPOSITE/ECLECTIC Bandon Resort Course
« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2011, 05:42:54 PM »

#7 - PD (the weakest foursome IMO)


Did you play 7 at Old Mac?! Also 7 at Trails is fine hole.

When you have four of the best courses in the world, the weakest foursome is still pretty darn good. #7 to me has a great view, but wasn't one of my favorite holes at OM.  I was pretty far out of position off the tee, however, so I may get a better feel for the hole next time.
Fair enough, but I would say it's not weak at all. Sure 7 is one of the weaker holes on PD, but BD's is not bad as well with an exhilirating second shot. I hope it doesn't seem like I'm picking on you, just professing my love of the 7s!

7 weak at PD? Really?

Couldn't disagree more.

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